Evil D wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:55 pm
Wartstein wrote: ↑Sat Aug 06, 2022 4:37 pm
But, honestly: All this "methods" came completely "naturally" and easily in my case, just from "using my knife and cut stuff, then close it up" (to quote Tom
)
Take your Manix and go stand on the side of the highway about 2 feet from the white line. Stand there long enough for a few semi trucks and texting drivers to fly by you so fast that the wind nearly knocked you down. Once you're fully aware that just one of those people can get distracted long enough to cross that white line long enough to kill you, that's when you pull the knife out and see if it's as second nature for you to operate, or if it requires way too much focus for you to bother with. Then do it with gloves on. Then do it in the pouring rain. Then do it in the snow. Then do it in all those scenarios in the dark. This is the environment I use my knife in about 50% of the time. For a casual EDC I can and have lived with the CBBL but it just doesn't work for my job, and lately I buy knives that can do more than just ride in my pocket on my day off.
It's not like I'm saying it's difficult, it just takes more focus than I'm going to live with, when other locks require less focus. What exactly am I gaining by forcing myself to adapt to a knife or lock? Like I said, if the rest of the knife design was absolutely the best possible, then maybe, but the wonderful thing about Spyderco is that there are many options and like this thread has shown some of those options have a lot in common. The whole mentality of "well it's this easy for me so surely it's easy for you too" just doesn't ever work out that way for everyone.
And for the record I did EDC a Manix 2 for a very long time, it was the knife that dethroned the Para 2 for me, so it's not like I'm speculating about any of this. Both the CBBL and Compression Lock have their pros and cons and I've changed my preferences for and against both of them over the years.
My apologies should I have come across the wrong way, this was not my intent!
And actually almost my main credo on this forum is "things can be x for person A, but y for person B and both is fine" - so I´d never, ever intentionally imply that cause something is easy (or hard) for me, it must be easy (or hard) for anyone else!
If I sounded like that, this was also not my intent.
Perhaps I should make my hypothesis clearer; What I am basically proposing is:
. that there are several good "closing methods" to choose from with the CBBL - some don´t require using the butt end of the handle for leverage.
- Most people though "learn" the usual "two fingers pull the lock tabs and then swing the blade shut" first. Not necessarily because this is the best or most natural way of closing a CBBL (for me it definitely is NOT), but because this is "how it´s done" - everyone does it, on every youtube vid they do it and so on and so it is actually not "natural" to start with another method.
- AFTER one has "learned" that method (which requires the handle end or clip for leverage), of course all other / new ones at first feel like "having to adapt".
- Would people learn another - for me better - method first, or, like it was in my case, completely have to figure out by themselves how to use a CBBL without knowing how others do it, things might (just might!) be different
- Just a theory, could be totally wrong.
... Actually, in the scenario you describe, I´d take a CBBL over a comp.lock any day of the week (especially with gloves on!)
Just personal preference, and I admit; I am never in danger to get killed by a car while operating a folder (I know YOU are in your line of work!), but other than that I do use my knives quite a bit in snow, dark, cold and rain.
Anyway: I know you really know what you´re talking about, and despite I have not little, I am sure you still have more experience in using folders. I did not mean to doubt that by any means!
And I am dabbling deeply into "off topic" anyway...
