Pacific 2 Linerless Handles

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Pacific 2 Linerless Handles

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Hello All -

I recently picked up a Pacific Salt 2, and noticed after I bought it that the handle scales do not have steel liners. I am guessing that they were eliminated either to reduce costs, reduce weight, or both. The knife is very lightweight for sure, but the blade is a little sticky opening and closing, as it's steel against plastic, and I like more heft in the feel of a knife.

As this is my first Salt knife, do any of the other Salt models, or the Pacific Salt 1, have steel liners? I was under the mistaken impression that the FRN handled knives all had them.

The difference in strength or rigidity might not be much, but I'd prefer to have a knife with liners over one without.

Thanks, Doug
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Re: Pacific 2 Linerless Handles

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Hey Doug,

The Seki Salt knives (Pacific, Atlantic, Salt 2, DFly Salt...) are all linerless and have always been as far as I know (actually Delica and Endura have been too in the past and DFly is anyway.

Native Salt: Also linerless

The Siren has linerless G10 scales (might feel more rigid than your Pac Salt, don't know)

The Carribean though does have liners

The Spydiechef as Titanium folder is technically linerless (?) I guess, or/but the handle is kind of "scales and liners in one".

If VG10 is rustproof enough for you (for me it is) and you want liners: Just go with an Endura 4 perhaps?
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Re: Pacific 2 Linerless Handles

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The liners were eliminated to prevent corrosion, not to reduce weight or cost. Well, it does reduce cost over using corrosion proof steel for the liners. They do have to meet a price point.
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If you use it you will find your new knife does anything a knife with liners can do.
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vivi wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:04 am
If you use it you will find your new knife does anything a knife with liners can do.
I am a fan of the linerless knives. All my purposeful outdoor activities are with the linerless family.

Caribbean is nice, but you pay for it in weight and in coin.
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The catalog copy and the Spyderco website clearly specify that the handles of these knives are "linerless." If that's a personal concern, check for that term before you buy.

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i've been using a pacific salt for years. it's clipped to my waistband right now, actually. it's a wonderful knife, even without liners.

i will say that i also prefer knives with a more robust and hefty feel for general edc, but a super light and thin knife with teeth as a backup and emergency knife that i never have to worry about rusting is a very nice addition. don't give up on it. ;)
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I have linerless OG Pac Salt (PE) and Atlantic Salt (SE) knives. Use 'em hard, wipe clean or spray out with the hose when necessary. No fuss, no muss. 👍
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Use it, it's a fantastic workhorse! I haven't broken mine and I've beat the snot out of it!
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Doug , use it And I think you will see no liners are definitely not an issue . One of my favorite knives . MG2
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My H1 Pac Salt 2 (just few days old now) was smooth right out of the box. Actually better than Maxamet Native 5 I had a chance to try briefly.
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Look into an Endura, that should be the ticket for you. It's is the same size and similar blade shape, and has steel liners.
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I was skeptical about linerless folder too. I picked up a PacSalt 2 for a second knife for camping/kayaking, and I love it. I was also avoiding FRN. But I have no issues at all with fit and finish and it is more solid than I expected.

I got a Native Chief as well which is also linerless but G10 and it is a tank.
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Very cool, thank you everyone!

And just to clarify, I didn't mean for this post about the linerless handles to come off as a complaint, or as questioning the quality of the knife or the brand. It was more of a design-oriented question of, "I've never seen this before, I wonder why they did that?", a curiosity borne out of my love of Spyderco knives, that began in 1991, with a new C03PE Hunter. The Pacific Salt 2 is Spyderco #15 in my collection of 100 or so knives. :grimace My EDC is currently a Gayle Bradley 2 in M4, and it's terrific.

I needed the Pacific 2 like I need a hole in my head, but I was drawn to it, and thought, "Ah, what the heck, what's one more." :beaming-face
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spinynorman wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:12 pm

I needed the Pacific 2 like I need a hole in my head, but I was drawn to it, and thought, "Ah, what the heck, what's one more." :beaming-face
Just out of curiosity, which model did you get? LC200N or H1?
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spinynorman wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:12 pm
Very cool, thank you everyone!

And just to clarify, I didn't mean for this post about the linerless handles to come off as a complaint, or as questioning the quality of the knife or the brand. It was more of a design-oriented question of, "I've never seen this before, I wonder why they did that?", a curiosity borne out of my love of Spyderco knives, that began in 1991, with a new C03PE Hunter. The Pacific Salt 2 is Spyderco #15 in my collection of 100 or so knives. :grimace My EDC is currently a Gayle Bradley 2 in M4, and it's terrific.

I needed the Pacific 2 like I need a hole in my head, but I was drawn to it, and thought, "Ah, what the heck, what's one more." :beaming-face
Endura generations 1-3 were all linerless. More or less going back to their roots in a way with the Pacific Salt.
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