Just got my Fluted CF Native 5. You can see that there is an imperfection in the CF circled in red and the pin for the back lock is proud on one side and below flush on the other. Are these acceptable for this model? I wouldn’t think twice on a standard Native 5 but fit/finish/materials is what makes this one $100 more. The carbon fiber imperfection is mostly what I wanted to check on.
What say you fine folks? I have the option to return it.
Native 5 CF S90V fit and finish
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Native 5 CF S90V fit and finish
What say you fine folks? I have the option to return it.
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I totally understand your dilemma, because I'm trying to make the same decision but for a different reason. I received an Autonomy 2 that looks fine and functions okay, but has a crunchy button. In my case, I don't know enough about the model to know if it's normal or not, so I don't know whether to accept it or return it (it could even be a benefit, being less likely to explosively deploy in my pocket, because I'm sure not going to carry it locked). In your case, you KNOW the imperfections aren't normal, and are deciding whether you can live with them.
If it were me, I would keep the knife, imperfections and all. I've done so, many times, with knives, fishing equipment, firearms, bicycles, furniture, etc. Premium mass produced items, even limited production runs, seldom meet my expectations (actually hopes) for fit and finish, and I almost always just accept it. I'd go crazy otherwise.
If it were me, I would keep the knife, imperfections and all. I've done so, many times, with knives, fishing equipment, firearms, bicycles, furniture, etc. Premium mass produced items, even limited production runs, seldom meet my expectations (actually hopes) for fit and finish, and I almost always just accept it. I'd go crazy otherwise.
Re: Native 5 CF S90V fit and finish
I'm usually not very picky but considering the price I'd probably send it back. That's providing the little imperfection looks the same in person as it does in the pic. I know how phone camera's can make things like this look worse than it actually is. Whether or not I'd send it back would also depend on availability of a replacement
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Re: Native 5 CF S90V fit and finish
The pin on the back lock of mine is slightly proud as well. Honestly didn't notice it until this thread made me re-examine. The pin doesn't/wouldn't bother me. That gap.... really depends on your OCD. Thankfully mine doesn't have one of those, but I feel for you and your dilemma. It's such a fantastic knife, I would be loath to give it up. Hard not to reach for it every day quite frankly.
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Re: Native 5 CF S90V fit and finish
My one has a chip in the CF similar to yours but I did get it secondhand for a good price. I’ve just been using it very happily tho. Its one of my favourites despite the visual defect. The contours as well as the s90v makes it amazing. I do hope to try out a FRN native at some point as the humpless design works great for me. If the CF model ever gets discontinued I will get me a spare.
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Since it's my most prized model, and even if I use it, I'd call the dealer and explain. Most dealers would accept an exchange if they have the stock and the knife came in anything but perfect.
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Re: Native 5 CF S90V fit and finish
This ^
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Re: Native 5 CF S90V fit and finish
Magnified imperfections seem bigger than they are.
That is, except when they occur on your own Spydie, then they’re even bigger.
That is, unless you have truly embraced the fact that Spyderco mass-produces mass-produced stuff (unlike a custom maker), then you marvel at how few and slight Spyderco’s imperfections actually are, and live happily with what you got.
I haven’t quite made it to the comfort zone yet, but I’m trying.
And, fortunately, I can’t check my S90V Native5 at the moment. Otherwise, I, too, would probably nitpick it and come away thinking I have something less than what I do.
Don’t let perfect be an enemy of the good, as many people over many years have reminded me.
That is, except when they occur on your own Spydie, then they’re even bigger.
That is, unless you have truly embraced the fact that Spyderco mass-produces mass-produced stuff (unlike a custom maker), then you marvel at how few and slight Spyderco’s imperfections actually are, and live happily with what you got.
I haven’t quite made it to the comfort zone yet, but I’m trying.
And, fortunately, I can’t check my S90V Native5 at the moment. Otherwise, I, too, would probably nitpick it and come away thinking I have something less than what I do.
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Re: Native 5 CF S90V fit and finish
Thanks for the opinions everyone. I appreciate it!
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I wonder what Spyderco's warranty department would say about that? I'm thinking they'd say it's within specs...
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Re: Native 5 CF S90V fit and finish
Perhaps so. One reason I was asking was because, for example, LW Para 3s come off center. It’s just normal. Are imperfections in CF considered normal? Maybe sal will weigh in.
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Re: Native 5 CF S90V fit and finish
Ultimately it’s your call , if you aren’t happy return or live with it. Flaws bug me too , but usually depends what it is and how it effects the knife . I would take advice already given I would not waste time thinking about it , who knows how long they will available. MG2
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Re: Native 5 CF S90V fit and finish
Also check the swedge. One side is closer to the tip than the other side on mine.
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Re: Native 5 CF S90V fit and finish
I think it’s reasonable to expect more when you’re paying more.
This one tops my wish list, and I would expect better for the 350usd it will cost me.
This one tops my wish list, and I would expect better for the 350usd it will cost me.
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Re: Native 5 CF S90V fit and finish
I have seen the flat liner side of spydercos carbon fiber scales end up with little chips like that or not be completely flush. I think the way they machine it may cause some chip out.
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Re: Native 5 CF S90V fit and finish
Exchange it. For the price paid you should get better quality. My siren has the same stop pin issue. I can live with it on the Siren. On an almost $400 msrp knife, no, exchange for a knife that has more attention.
Re: Native 5 CF S90V fit and finish
If you noticed it, you expected it to be better. I personally care for details and would exchange. It won't get better over time.
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