Anyone bought a Tenacious lately?

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Anyone bought a Tenacious lately?

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How's the retention on recent production? Tighter lockup than on those early review videos where users report shedding blood?

I've seen a few comments suggesting that the Persistence, a newer model, is better made in this regard. (And I have two P's whose lockup I would rate as close to perfect.)

Can anyone say the same for current production of the Tenacious? Or is retention still an issue?

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I've picked up two Tenacious and a Persistence in the last couple months. Lockup (retention?) on all three is as perfect as all the rest of my Spydie's. No issues whatsoever.
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I think he is refering to the detent (sp) or tension holding the blade closed.
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If you are referring to the couple of reports of substandard closed detent, then let me reassure you that I have had a PE and SE Tenacious for several years and had zero incidents. I also have a Per that does seem to have stronger detent. A couple of reports on the web should really be taken with a grain of salt.
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I'm considering a Tenacious for a gift. My question refers to reports that some people have received versions of the T that don't stay closed leading to accidents.

Here's one from nutnfancy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLvRNpi-vxw

Here's another, click on about 6:55 minutes into the review where the blade falls open:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SrHFJjpHTY

I've seen no such reports lately and hopefully Spyderco has solved whatever problem there was and current T's are as safe as the P. Or maybe the T has been out long enough that there are no new reviews.

I'm simply trying to do a due diligence. No one would want to gift a knife that has problems.

Hence my question: has anyone bought a Tenacious recently who can speak to this?

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Seen the video, I'd have cut him too if he put me in a fanny pack. As I said there has never been a "problem" with either of the Tenacious that I own so I doubt there is a problem now.
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I can shake open any of my knives too if I wanted them to open that way. Never had one opened in my pocket though. That was his own fault he got cut. Luckily he didn't blindly reach for a gun in there he probably would've shot himself. I messed around with a Tenacious at a gun show recently. The opening and closing of the one I held felt pretty firm, not loose at all.
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I bought a Tenacious in January 2010 (my 1st Spyderco!) and it has no issues. It takes a lot of force to shake it open. Lock up is solid too. I wouldn't hesitate to give a Tenacious or Persistence.
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gbelleh wrote:I bought a Tenacious in January 2010 (my 1st Spyderco!) and it has no issues. It takes a lot of force to shake it open. Lock up is solid too. I wouldn't hesitate to give a Tenacious or Persistence.
Thanks -- exactly what I needed to know!
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I got two Persistance in the mail yesterday. One for me and one for a graduation present. Both were great as far as Fit and finish was concerned. The lock up on both are really good as well no blade play at all.
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Two Tenacious bought 3 weeks ago and 1 Persistance bought a week ago. Mine feel solid, no complaints.
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Thanks folks -- just placed my order!

I asked the dealer to check the in-handle retention and hopefully he will.

The last dealer I asked to check the goods said, we don't do that.........
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I bought a Persistence first, and the retention was an obvious upgrade. A little while ago I bought a Tenacious, and it is just as good as its little brother. I think they've rectified the problem.

Both excellent knives for the price. Enjoy them!
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I have (and love) a Tenacious, but it did bite me when I was carrying it tip-up in a regular pocket. I think the extra length and weight of the blade makes the detent a little less effective than on the Persistence, but AFAIK that is just my opinion - I have not carried both regularly to see.
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I have one from about 2 years ago and EDC'd it for about a year -- detent always worked great, for me. I too cut myself, but it wasn't because of that!
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I think the lack of ricasso/choil is a more frequent cause of bleeding via thumb unlocking.

Detent problems can be solved with proper pocket carry. Hard for a blade to opened when tucked against the side of a pocket.
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Yes, I recommend putting it against the side of a pocket or tip-down *especially* if you ever put anything else in the same pocket.
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Blerv wrote:I think the lack of ricasso/choil is a more frequent cause of bleeding via thumb unlocking.
That was definitely it for me. First day, practising closing left handed, but it was my middle or index finger that took a good chop near the liner lock (don't remember which).
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Those of you who've been bitten by Mr. T. -- do you think the longer blade is an issue?

I ask because I've had no problems with the smaller Persistence.
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Metric wrote:That was definitely it for me. First day, practising closing left handed, but it was my middle or index finger that took a good chop near the liner lock (don't remember which).
You are definitely not alone on that one. I swear I've seen a couple video reviews where the person chopped their finger DURING the filming! :eek:

I guess cheap knives aren't supposed to be so **** quick and sharp. The Tenacious has been a learning curve for everyone, IMHO.
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