Upland game/Small game knife
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Mini Jess Horn would work well for field dressing small game.
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If you mean the K09, it probably would work pretty well as a bird knife. Not sure the curved blade would work well for skinning? Perhaps a true paring knife might make it to production? The K05 is really more an all purpose blade, a bit long for a "paring" knife, and the K09 is more a fruit, garnish, and prep knife. Both work well for their intended purposes.Ferris Wheels wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:53 pmWhat about the Mini-Paring knife, it seems like the design would work well as a bird and trout knife.
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For small game, sprig all the way. If you want it thin, you can always send it out for a regrind. I use my Sprig for small game and it works great.
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Funny, another CO boy, and I have that exact knife too! :eek: :cool:cycleguy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:43 amI have been fishing since 5, small game hunting since grade 1, and big game hunting for around 3 decades. I am near 60 and have found (generally speaking) that I could clean anything with anything as long as it has a sharp edge.
A favorite of mine was a ceramic blade boker about 2" in length that was surgical sharp (like I've performed surgeries before, but you get the picture). It was amazing at taking full skins from pheasants...
I think a Chaparral with any handle material, CTS-XHP, and thin blade would be a good candidate. Folders don't clean as easily as fixed blades but that really isn't a problem.
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It pretty much is.
I own both a Sprig (two, actually) and one of Phil's custom B&T's and they are very, very close.
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A longer Ladybug would do nicely if it were kept just as thin in aLl dimensions.
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This one was my Dad's. Early 70's as far as I can tell. Still like new
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It would be cool to have a dedicated skinner that had a large 4.25 inch handle and an ultra thin 2 inch Maxamet blade.
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Wow... such a small world at times. Mine came from Rocky Mtn Specialty Gear when they were a little known hole in the wall in my area.SpyderPhreak wrote: ↑Mon Nov 04, 2019 7:47 pmFunny, another CO boy, and I have that exact knife too! :eek: :cool:cycleguy wrote: ↑Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:43 amI have been fishing since 5, small game hunting since grade 1, and big game hunting for around 3 decades. I am near 60 and have found (generally speaking) that I could clean anything with anything as long as it has a sharp edge.
A favorite of mine was a ceramic blade boker about 2" in length that was surgical sharp (like I've performed surgeries before, but you get the picture). It was amazing at taking full skins from pheasants...
I think a Chaparral with any handle material, CTS-XHP, and thin blade would be a good candidate. Folders don't clean as easily as fixed blades but that really isn't a problem.
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Any chance you purchased it at the knife shop at Villa Italia mall in Lakewood, "Naked Edge Cutlery" I believe it was called? I spent a TON of time in that store as a kid!
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That is a gem!!!! Mine was a gift from my Dad, so one of the better knives I own.
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I was thinking a small b&t knife could be like a ball point pen. Something of a small tube but more oval than round and the cap would be the sheath and possibly twist lock into place.
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Have you looked at the Mantra 2? Seems like it would fit what you’re looking for.
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I can definitely understand the cold issue, but I use my Spydiechef quite a bit in the kitchen for food prep (including prepping raw meat like chicken). I know it sounds weird, but when the scales get wet they actually get more ‘grippy’. I really don’t know how to explain it, but I was amazed. I haven’t had any issues with the knife sliding around in my hands, but processing a chicken in a kitchen is different than dressing game in the field.
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I agree water alone is no problem most of the time when it comes to traction, I was mostly referring to temperature. Trout live in sub 60 degree water, which usually isn't a problem, unless the air temp is 40 degrees, especially if there's a breeze. Under these circumstances a metal handle just compounds the misery. I always clean my fish streamside, sometimes immediately after caught.Brackish wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:56 pmI can definitely understand the cold issue, but I use my Spydiechef quite a bit in the kitchen for food prep (including prepping raw meat like chicken). I know it sounds weird, but when the scales get wet they actually get more ‘grippy’. I really don’t know how to explain it, but I was amazed. I haven’t had any issues with the knife sliding around in my hands, but processing a chicken in a kitchen is different than dressing game in the field.
And of course animal fat/ fish oil (trout is an oily fish) will coat your hands. Oily hands and a metal handle is tricky to keep control.
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Yep, sounds like it might be a bit uncomfortable in that type of situation. Around here, the only trout I can chase have been stocked. Jealous.jpm2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:12 pmI agree water alone is no problem most of the time when it comes to traction, I was mostly referring to temperature. Trout live in sub 60 degree water, which usually isn't a problem, unless the air temp is 40 degrees, especially if there's a breeze. Under these circumstances a metal handle just compounds the misery. I always clean my fish streamside, sometimes immediately after caught.Brackish wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 6:56 pmI can definitely understand the cold issue, but I use my Spydiechef quite a bit in the kitchen for food prep (including prepping raw meat like chicken). I know it sounds weird, but when the scales get wet they actually get more ‘grippy’. I really don’t know how to explain it, but I was amazed. I haven’t had any issues with the knife sliding around in my hands, but processing a chicken in a kitchen is different than dressing game in the field.
And of course animal fat/ fish oil (trout is an oily fish) will coat your hands. Oily hands and a metal handle is tricky to keep control.
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The blade needs to be thin but not flexible. It needs to be no longer than 2.9 inches, but a tad shorter is maybe better. The blade cannot be too wide or broad so as to get inside and it needs a little curve near the tip for caping/skinning. The blade needs to be strong enough to cut off tiny feet and heads and not bend when doing so (dangerous). The blade needs to be pointy.
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Doc Dan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:10 amThe blade needs to be thin but not flexible. It needs to be no longer than 2.9 inches, but a tad shorter is maybe better. The blade cannot be too wide or broad so as to get inside and it needs a little curve near the tip for caping/skinning. The blade needs to be strong enough to cut off tiny feet and heads and not bend when doing so (dangerous). The blade needs to be pointy.
You pretty much just described my GEC H20 Muskrat Clip. If Spyderco took this concept and made a front flipper compression lock version (to keep it’s slim lines) featuring 2mm LC200N, G10, and wire clip I would be all in for multiples.
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I shot five squirrel yesterday. I would have loved to have had a dedicated Spyderco small game knife when I was cleaning them, but I have to admit that my Mora Companion worked just fine.
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I came across this technique about 30 years ago while at a gun club invite. (This type of hunt is not my cup of tea, but acquaintance was training a new dog so it had a justified purpose). From what I've experienced, most sport/club hunters aren't interested in the meat. I spent time with the guys in the cleaning shack filling a cooler with birds while the others went off to the clubhouse; and is where I learned this method.
My day in the field... maybe 10 miles of walking... and hunting up to the last minute of legal daylight (sunset). You often find yourself with temperatures dropping into the teens with darkness setting in quickly and a couple birds in the back pouch of your game vest. It's a 4 hour drive back home and you need to be up early and back to work the next morning. You are already near shivering from being in the elements all morning/day and the wind may be picking up. You find yourself willing to give up the small quantity and less than desirable meat of the legs, thighs, wings, and back (tough meat mostly) and appreciate making quick work with the field cleaning chores.
https://youtu.be/kdyyMJL_LXE
You can also breast small birds like dove and quail with your thumb.
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P.S. For the non-hunting guys, nothing in nature goes to waste; the coyotes and other critters will be on the remains in short order.
My day in the field... maybe 10 miles of walking... and hunting up to the last minute of legal daylight (sunset). You often find yourself with temperatures dropping into the teens with darkness setting in quickly and a couple birds in the back pouch of your game vest. It's a 4 hour drive back home and you need to be up early and back to work the next morning. You are already near shivering from being in the elements all morning/day and the wind may be picking up. You find yourself willing to give up the small quantity and less than desirable meat of the legs, thighs, wings, and back (tough meat mostly) and appreciate making quick work with the field cleaning chores.
https://youtu.be/kdyyMJL_LXE
You can also breast small birds like dove and quail with your thumb.
CG
P.S. For the non-hunting guys, nothing in nature goes to waste; the coyotes and other critters will be on the remains in short order.
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