Tool marks on clip for some new knives
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Tool marks on clip for some new knives
I am seeing tool marks on the pocket clips of new knives. First the Shaman and then others. I have verified with three other buyers, from three different authorized dealers. So it seems legit Spyderco, but what are they? To me it looks like it could be a barcode. I know they are serious about pursuing counterfeiters. Maybe this is an authentication method. Does anyone know? Here is an example: https://imgur.com/a/3Ezipqv
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Re: Tool marks on clip for some new knives
Those marks are curious. I wonder if others have seen similar?
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Re: Tool marks on clip for some new knives
The exact same type of marking is on my brand new KW 204p Shaman. Doesn't bother me, also curious though.
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Re: Tool marks on clip for some new knives
I dont think it has anything to do with authentication. If Spyderco was going to place a mark I would think it would be inside the knife scales or on the blade where its hidden like the small "detent" holes in blade to show what steel they are .
Probably a clamp made the mark making the bend in the clip.
I think Ive read all clips are made by someone else.
Probably a clamp made the mark making the bend in the clip.
I think Ive read all clips are made by someone else.
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Re: Tool marks on clip for some new knives
I am slow to believe that a class act like Spiderco, who has their pocket clips well worked out for decades, with suddenly allow big noticeable tool marks. I am very curious to hear the explanation from Spyderco. I hope they reply.
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Re: Tool marks on clip for some new knives
I’ve never seen this before. Hope to hear an answer . Checked some recent knives and clips are fine .
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Re: Tool marks on clip for some new knives
The tool marks confirm that spyderco knives are, infact, tools and not jewelry. Except the knife pendants like the ARK. Those are jewelry.
Re: Tool marks on clip for some new knives
I'm no expert, but the marks look as if a clamp shifted during manufacture. The Spyder Logo on your knife is very different than those on the four knives that are sitting here on my desk.
On mine, the triangular fang/mandible is clearly defined. Yours doesn't seem to have a triangle at all. Also, your Spyder has no thigh-gap. Your rear legs are rubbing on the body, and your third pair of legs is rubbing on the rear. The ends of your second pair of legs is touching the first pair.
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Re: Tool marks on clip for some new knives
I don't think the OP is complaining, only asking if there is a purpose to those marks. As I said up top, I'm curious as well.
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Re: Tool marks on clip for some new knives
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Re: Tool marks on clip for some new knives
It’s on both new shamans I got. Must just be a new thing I guess.
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But the native 5 I have has it too. Looks like it’s normal for this type of clip
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Re: Tool marks on clip for some new knives
Cheddarnut wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:00 pmThe tool marks confirm that spyderco knives are, infact, tools and not jewelry. Except the knife pendants like the ARK. Those are jewelry.
Maybe your right but I recall 10, or 15 years ago one was hard pressed find what I will call imperfection on a Spyderco. Unless it was a blemish in box, from shipping, or opening and closing before sale.
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Re: Tool marks on clip for some new knives
I am guessing but I would think these Clips start out as FLAT STOCK, get stamp out, formed in Die, heat treated, finished, and installed.
Think the MARKS COULD BE FROM BENDING PROCESS IN BENDING CLIP TO SHAPE.
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Re: Tool marks on clip for some new knives
It could be that the pressmachine its tooling has some minor damage.
Or was even just dirty. Those marks are no problem and will not give any problem in the future its pure looks.
I know from my work that tooling like that needs allot of maintenance so maybe a temporary employee did not see the problem and there were a bunch of clips made like that? I can guess many clips are made per hour so likely its just a batch that has the mark.
Or was even just dirty. Those marks are no problem and will not give any problem in the future its pure looks.
I know from my work that tooling like that needs allot of maintenance so maybe a temporary employee did not see the problem and there were a bunch of clips made like that? I can guess many clips are made per hour so likely its just a batch that has the mark.
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Re: Tool marks on clip for some new knives
I couldn't find it on anything but my Shaman's. The burnt orange Rex45 Sprint is the oldest i have where the marks are present. So it's been around since before June of 2020.
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Re: Tool marks on clip for some new knives
Looking back on my comment it seems more snarky than i had intended, i was jesting but forgot the ! I prefer my tools to look like jewelry personally :)akapennypincher wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:33 pmCheddarnut wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:00 pmThe tool marks confirm that spyderco knives are, infact, tools and not jewelry. Except the knife pendants like the ARK. Those are jewelry.
Maybe your right but I recall 10, or 15 years ago one was hard pressed find what I will call imperfection on a Spyderco. Unless it was a blemish in box, from shipping, or opening and closing before sale.
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Re: Tool marks on clip for some new knives
It was maybe a bit snarky but you are telling facts.Cheddarnut wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:29 pmLooking back on my comment it seems more snarky than i had intended, i was jesting but forgot the ! I prefer my tools to look like jewelry personally :)akapennypincher wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 3:33 pmCheddarnut wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 1:00 pmThe tool marks confirm that spyderco knives are, infact, tools and not jewelry. Except the knife pendants like the ARK. Those are jewelry.
Maybe your right but I recall 10, or 15 years ago one was hard pressed find what I will call imperfection on a Spyderco. Unless it was a blemish in box, from shipping, or opening and closing before sale.
Now to be positive i blaim the state the world is in instead of spyderco themselves. Everything fell dorment during covid so now everything and everyone needs to work at 200% to catch up the profits so if output go's up quality go's down. It just a natural thing. I think when everything returns to normal the minor flaws will also dissapear again.
Re: Tool marks on clip for some new knives
So with further investigation I’ve concluded a few things. I checked older shaman and native 5’s. All the shaman have these marks on clips. The native’s only had it on lightweight model. Also the clips on lightweight models are slightly bent different than G10 models. I think it has to be the sharper bend on the shaman and native lightweight clips. I’ll add some pictures to show what I mean.
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