Top Steels and Scales for another Kapara sprint?
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Top Steels and Scales for another Kapara sprint?
Like for so many of you, the Kapara is one of my most carried knives (second to the Ouroboros!) But I also have too much carbon fiber and too many similar steels. For all of their expense and rarity, swapping in a sprint run model can cut down redundancy in a collection :)
Given the choice, what would you like to see in a Kapara sprint? Here are mine.
Steels
1: high wear, like s90v or k390
2: MagnaCut
3: LC200N
Scales
1: Raffir Noble
Bonus points if they can find some Gold g-10 for the backspacer.
2: Micarta
3: Silver twill
Given the choice, what would you like to see in a Kapara sprint? Here are mine.
Steels
1: high wear, like s90v or k390
2: MagnaCut
3: LC200N
Scales
1: Raffir Noble
Bonus points if they can find some Gold g-10 for the backspacer.
2: Micarta
3: Silver twill
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Re: Top Steels and Scales for another Kapara sprint?
I would not mind seeing AEB-L or Cruwear for blade steel and scales would be natural material (desert ironwood, jigged bone, ?) and there would be a bolster.
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Steel wise, any of the SS options you mentioned would be fine with me, in addition, 20CV, S35VN/SPY27, S45VN or S110V would fit my tastes. As for scales, my one and only mild complaint about the Kapara is that it's a bit slick in stock form, something with a little more grip like those beautiful micarta scales you showed would be excellent.
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Honestly: FRN.
Steel not that important to me, sticking with S30V would be fine, but I would take BD1N, LC200N, XHP...
Steel not that important to me, sticking with S30V would be fine, but I would take BD1N, LC200N, XHP...
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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Since there hasn't been a Kapara sprint I'll assume you're referring to the dealer exclusive?
I'm not really interested in another exclusive or even a sprint run. I really like the original one I have. I guess if I was going to change something it would be to use soft Micarta or TeroTuf scales. Steel isn't a big deal to me.
I'm not really interested in another exclusive or even a sprint run. I really like the original one I have. I guess if I was going to change something it would be to use soft Micarta or TeroTuf scales. Steel isn't a big deal to me.
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Personally in my opinion, it should stick to stainless steels since the intended design of the Kapara by Alistair Phillips was for it to become a pocket-friendly food prep knife.
The DLT Exclusive 20CV Kapara is probably the penultimate design, except maybe for the rather plain gray G10 scales, which many of us could agree is rather inferior, aesthetics-wise, to the original CF scales.
I guess the only way for the Kapara to improve while not straying from its intended design purpose, is to use a more corrosion-resistant steel with a good blend of relative toughness, so for me it would be a combination of Vanax Superclean steel and Micarta scales.
The DLT Exclusive 20CV Kapara is probably the penultimate design, except maybe for the rather plain gray G10 scales, which many of us could agree is rather inferior, aesthetics-wise, to the original CF scales.
I guess the only way for the Kapara to improve while not straying from its intended design purpose, is to use a more corrosion-resistant steel with a good blend of relative toughness, so for me it would be a combination of Vanax Superclean steel and Micarta scales.
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Oddly enough, I like the original version so much that I'm not really looking forward to any kind of sprint run or exclusive of the Kapara (if that makes any sense).
Sure, a Micarta handle could be nice (Micarta is always a nice option to have) but truth be told these CF scales are hard to beat. And there's nothing wrong with S30V in my book (I wouldn't mind trying SPY27 just to see what it's all about, but the Kapara is expensive enough as it is...)
Sure, a Micarta handle could be nice (Micarta is always a nice option to have) but truth be told these CF scales are hard to beat. And there's nothing wrong with S30V in my book (I wouldn't mind trying SPY27 just to see what it's all about, but the Kapara is expensive enough as it is...)
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Any different steel works but to get me it would need textured scales. Either FRN or G10
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I'm fine with the base steel, but would really like to see grippier scales, as others have mentioned. I have the smooth G10 DLT exclusive, and the scales are not my favorite thing because of the knife's slim handle.
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Agreed about the scales, I would love something a little gripper (it's my only complaint about the Kapara, love my DLT Exclusive). Green micarta would be fantastic, but I would also like some peel-ply G10, maybe blue?
For steel I prefer stainless and love the M390 family.
Oh, and an FRN Lightweight Kapara would be AMAZING. Especially if it was mostly linerless like the Para 3 LW. Day 1 purchase if it comes out.
For steel I prefer stainless and love the M390 family.
Oh, and an FRN Lightweight Kapara would be AMAZING. Especially if it was mostly linerless like the Para 3 LW. Day 1 purchase if it comes out.
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I remember DLT Jordan saying something about Micarta scales being in the works. I would be interested in trying them out to see if they improve the grip.
The smooth scales are the only reason I don’t carry my Kapara at work more often.
The smooth scales are the only reason I don’t carry my Kapara at work more often.
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This!FourStringFiend wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:49 pmAny different steel works but to get me it would need textured scales. Either FRN or G10
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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FourStringFiend wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:27 pmI remember DLT Jordan saying something about Micarta scales being in the works. I would be interested in trying them out to see if they improve the grip.
The smooth scales are the only reason I don’t carry my Kapara at work more often.
Yep indeed.
DLTJordan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:06 amWright.88 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 6:30 pmOh, that's exciting news! Any chance that those aftermarket scales will be available in micarta (preferably green)? :)DLTJordan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:57 amThe scales are smooth, but the ergos of the handle keep it locked pretty well in your hand. I have no concerns about slipping up onto the blade or around the handle in general on these, CF or G10. Personally, I prefer the G-10, but I think these will be popular for blade swaps, look for some aftermarket scales for these in the next few months as well, we have a guy working on them.
There will absolutely be micarta.
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My current top choice would be k390 but that doesn’t sit well with being geared toward food prep (I’ll personally never understand using a folder for that when there are fixed blades available but that’s a different thread).
Magnacut would probably be a great fit when it’s available. Vanax would be awesome but idk if Spyderco is ever gonna use it.
I love the original handles, I wouldn’t mind them experimenting with different types of carbon fiber. I’m a sucker for micarta too.
Magnacut would probably be a great fit when it’s available. Vanax would be awesome but idk if Spyderco is ever gonna use it.
I love the original handles, I wouldn’t mind them experimenting with different types of carbon fiber. I’m a sucker for micarta too.
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Some great suggestions here already.
For steel, anything low maintenance would be great, LC200N or Vanax Superclean.
And for scales, something that makes it overall more table or side board friendly, and less tactical. Like some nice paper or linen Micarta, or the gold G10 showed earlier. Or maybe even some stabilized wood like mazur birch.
By the way, does anyone know if the first DLT exclusive was a one-off or if it will return?
For steel, anything low maintenance would be great, LC200N or Vanax Superclean.
And for scales, something that makes it overall more table or side board friendly, and less tactical. Like some nice paper or linen Micarta, or the gold G10 showed earlier. Or maybe even some stabilized wood like mazur birch.
By the way, does anyone know if the first DLT exclusive was a one-off or if it will return?
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I’d chase micarta with S90V or LC200N, but Magnacut might be worth the wait. I don’t have issues with either of the current scale options so variations of carbon or G10 would be second after micarta.
ETA: probably a long shot but clad HAP40 would be cool too.
ETA: probably a long shot but clad HAP40 would be cool too.
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I also think S90V would make a good Kapara steel.
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Re: Top Steels and Scales for another Kapara sprint?
Help me understand the request for a grippier scale material. Is it due to reduced or compromised grip strength? Does your job require lots stab cuts? Oil on your hands?
I find I have plenty of grip on the Kapara even with sweaty hands, but then my cutting almost never needs a stab cut or thrust. What is your use case that requires extra grip? I'm just curious is all, not trying to pick a fight.
I find I have plenty of grip on the Kapara even with sweaty hands, but then my cutting almost never needs a stab cut or thrust. What is your use case that requires extra grip? I'm just curious is all, not trying to pick a fight.
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I think the Kapara has excellent ergos and grip once I’m holding and using it. The problem, for me, is when I have a less secure grip when opening or especially when closing it. The Kapara is pretty narrow around the compression lock and that combined with the less-grippy handle makes it feel like it might fall out of my hands when closing with the compression lock (with one hand). Granted, I haven’t dropped it yet when doing this, but it would feel more secure with a little more grip.