Endura Salt?
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Endura Salt?
Would you buy an "Endura Salt" with the linerless scales and hardware of the Pacific Salt 2 and the blade shape of the regular Endura, in LC200N or Magnacut? What about an Endela Salt or Delica Salt with the regular blade shape?
This question is in no way a knock on the Pacific Salt. I love the blade shape, I'd just like another Salt with the same blade shape as the Endura to complement it.
If this has been polled before please let me know; I tried to search for "Endura Salt" but it seems that both words are too common on the forum to be used as search terms.
Edit: Thanks for the feedback everyone! :-)
When I posed the question I was thinking (in admittedly total ignorance of the actual complexity) that it might be an easy model to do since the handles and blade shape already exist, just not together. Oh, well. I'm sure we'll get other great Salts that we'll be stoked about.
This question is in no way a knock on the Pacific Salt. I love the blade shape, I'd just like another Salt with the same blade shape as the Endura to complement it.
If this has been polled before please let me know; I tried to search for "Endura Salt" but it seems that both words are too common on the forum to be used as search terms.
Edit: Thanks for the feedback everyone! :-)
When I posed the question I was thinking (in admittedly total ignorance of the actual complexity) that it might be an easy model to do since the handles and blade shape already exist, just not together. Oh, well. I'm sure we'll get other great Salts that we'll be stoked about.
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Re: Endura Salt?
I personally think it would be a bit redundant for Spyderco to make a Endura Salt considering the Pacific Salt is basically the same knife except for slight blade shape differences.
I voted Endela by the way but, I think the Rock Jumper would be a better choice for a knife in this size range to give the salt treatment to.
Just my $0.02
I voted Endela by the way but, I think the Rock Jumper would be a better choice for a knife in this size range to give the salt treatment to.
Just my $0.02
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I also voted Endela and also don't see much need either but then I've always wanted a part-serrated Salt knife other than the heavily restricted Autonomy 2 or the very rare Never Summer Native 5. The more I think about it I do think I'd like a combo edge Endura blade in a Salt steel... so I changed my vote to LC200N and I'd also be quite happy with H2.
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Re: Endura Salt?
The Pac Salt is the Endura Salt and it is linerless, too. I would like to see the Pac Salt with Magnacut and a pointier blade.
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Re: Endura Salt?
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Re: Endura Salt?
i agree that it would be redundant, but i understand your desire for a legit endura versus a pacific. personally, i'd rather see other seki models get the salt treatment over an endura... stretch 2 xl, matriarch 2 wave, endura wharncliffe, etc.
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Re: Endura Salt?
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Re: Endura Salt?
I would rather go the other way. I like the taller blade and bigger hole of the Pacific and would prefer that in the Endura.
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Re: Endura Salt?
No the shape isn't different enough for me to buy that. I would 100% buy a Pacific Salt wharncliffe though.
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Yes, but I'm with ladybug in wishing for other models more, especially the Stretch 2 XL and Matriarch 2.
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Endela or stretch salt would be fun to carry. There is room for an FRN salt that is bigger than the salt 2 and smaller than the pacific salt.
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A Salt version of the Wharncliffe Endura (just call it the Pacific Salt 2 Wharncliffe) would also bring it more in line, so to speak, with the Delica, as far as blade shape/steel combination variants go.spydergoat wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 12:02 pmNo the shape isn't different enough for me to buy that. I would 100% buy a Pacific Salt wharncliffe though.
And they might as well make an Endura-sized version of the Tasman Salt while they're at it. Though I have no idea what sea they could name it after. Maybe the Sargasso Salt (after the Sargasso Sea), or the Philippine Salt (after the Philippine Sea... kinda ties in with the hawkbill blade shape & the fact that the Philippine Sea is the largest sea by surface area)
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Re: Endura Salt?
I agree with you on that one, I love the Rock Jumper handle and I'm really hoping that we see a salt with that handle style someday.BLUETYPEII wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 10:18 pmI personally think it would be a bit redundant for Spyderco to make a Endura Salt considering the Pacific Salt is basically the same knife except for slight blade shape differences.
I voted Endela by the way but, I think the Rock Jumper would be a better choice for a knife in this size range to give the salt treatment to.
Just my $0.02
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I just say no to the LC200n, any steel like magna cut , vg10, bd1n,
I like liner less/ light weight, and vg10 , bd1n is super corrosion resistant over all !
The LC200n is super high maintenance when it comes to keeping it keen edge, I personally would sacrifice corrosion resistance for edge durability!
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I like liner less/ light weight, and vg10 , bd1n is super corrosion resistant over all !
The LC200n is super high maintenance when it comes to keeping it keen edge, I personally would sacrifice corrosion resistance for edge durability!
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i've spotted vg10 just from regular carry. it's nowhere near as corrosion resistant as lc200n. i know it's good enough for a lot of people, but it's not stainless enough for me to edc.S-3 ranch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:08 pmI just say no to the LC200n, any steel like magna cut , vg10, bd1n,
I like liner less/ light weight, and vg10 , bd1n is super corrosion resistant over all !
The LC200n is super high maintenance when it comes to keeping it keen edge, I personally would sacrifice corrosion resistance for edge durability!
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current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
Re: Endura Salt?
Dang that’s ashame, I run a fishing & hunting operation, and have had my vg10 delica slide down into the bilge and be “lost “ and find it 1-2 months later and it’s basically spotless.ladybug93 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:16 pmi've spotted vg10 just from regular carry. it's nowhere near as corrosion resistant as lc200n. i know it's good enough for a lot of people, but it's not stainless enough for me to edc.S-3 ranch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:08 pmI just say no to the LC200n, any steel like magna cut , vg10, bd1n,
I like liner less/ light weight, and vg10 , bd1n is super corrosion resistant over all !
The LC200n is super high maintenance when it comes to keeping it keen edge, I personally would sacrifice corrosion resistance for edge durability!
M2ct
The salt2 LC200n I have goes dull after 1-2 days of medium duty of rope and net cutting, so a more durable steel IMO is a better working knife, I have plumb wore out my salt2 since 12-2021 purchase . @ $127 I decided to run it till I need to buy a endela vg10 and that time is very near
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Different folks have different needs. Sounds like you've found what works for you.S-3 ranch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:34 pmDang that’s ashame, I run a fishing & hunting operation, and have had my vg10 delica slide down into the bilge and be “lost “ and find it 1-2 months later and it’s basically spotless.ladybug93 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:16 pmi've spotted vg10 just from regular carry. it's nowhere near as corrosion resistant as lc200n. i know it's good enough for a lot of people, but it's not stainless enough for me to edc.S-3 ranch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:08 pmI just say no to the LC200n, any steel like magna cut , vg10, bd1n,
I like liner less/ light weight, and vg10 , bd1n is super corrosion resistant over all !
The LC200n is super high maintenance when it comes to keeping it keen edge, I personally would sacrifice corrosion resistance for edge durability!
M2ct
The salt2 LC200n I have goes dull after 1-2 days of medium duty of rope and net cutting, so a more durable steel IMO is a better working knife, I have plumb wore out my salt2 since 12-2021 purchase . @ $127 I decided to run it till I need to buy a endela vg10 and that time is very near
That said, I've found lc200n lasts longer with your type of use with a really coarse edge, like 200-400 grit. Might be worth a shot.
The edge retention of LC200N disappointed me at first too, but I was running edges off the fine sharpmaker stone. I expected better edge retention vs h1. Since giving my Lc200n Pacific Salt a 300 grit edge I've come to like the steel a lot more.
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i'm glad it works for you. and i'm glad spyderco makes something for all of us.S-3 ranch wrote: ↑Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:34 pmDang that’s ashame, I run a fishing & hunting operation, and have had my vg10 delica slide down into the bilge and be “lost “ and find it 1-2 months later and it’s basically spotless.
The salt2 LC200n I have goes dull after 1-2 days of medium duty of rope and net cutting, so a more durable steel IMO is a better working knife, I have plumb wore out my salt2 since 12-2021 purchase . @ $127 I decided to run it till I need to buy a endela vg10 and that time is very near
when it first came out, i found it to be similar to s30v in my use. after using it over time, it definitely fell short of s30v and i found it to be more prove to rolling, but very easy to touch up. definitely not a perfect steel, but i do like it a lot for my use.vivi wrote: Different folks have different needs. Sounds like you've found what works for you.
That said, I've found lc200n lasts longer with your type of use with a really coarse edge, like 200-400 grit. Might be worth a shot.
The edge retention of LC200N disappointed me at first too, but I was running edges off the fine sharpmaker stone. I expected better edge retention vs h1. Since giving my Lc200n Pacific Salt a 300 grit edge I've come to like the steel a lot more.
it seems to work better for me on thicker blades, which would make sense because geometry matters. the native and spydiechef aren't as slicey as a delica, but i haven't had any issues with them rolling at all and the edge lasts as long as vg10 at least for me.
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current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C