Dedicated box cutter knife?

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Dedicated box cutter knife?

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I'm surprised no one has ever done a dedicated box cutting knife

I use utility knives to break down boxes because those thin 0.025" thick blades blaze through better than any pocket knife can, but the cutting edge on them are usually super short, unless it's something like the utilizer

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Would love a wharncliffe shape knife, not much more thick blade stock in something wear resistant...

Maybe I have to get a custom maker to make me something
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We've talked about a Spyderco folder that uses utility blades a bunch of times but it has never happened. For something like that I'd actually prefer disposable blades because you'd sharpen it so often and the blade is so small you'd sharpen it away. I carried a Gerber EAB for years.
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I fear my friend no one has ever done that because there is not much of market for it. Lets face it a box cutter knife costs nothing in a brick&mortar store. A spyderco box cutter knife as you discribe would be an expensive speciality variant and would only be interesting for the spyderco enthousiast.
And a spyderco fan does not need that because every spydie can brake down boxes like there nothing. So in the end we already have all the box cutters in all shapes sizes and steels that are possible to make.
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Does something like the TPT Slide not count?

If I didnt like knives, I would totally carry a Milwaukee fastback.
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apollo wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:54 am
I fear my friend no one has ever done that because there is not much of market for it. Lets face it a box cutter knife costs nothing in a brick&mortar store.


Oh it's been done, I can't name any off the top of my head but I've seen crazy high end titanium versions, but then the argument is "it cost $______ and doesn't even have a blade!!" so I understand why more companies don't do it. Also for a company like Spyderco where the steel itself is a big part of their whole existence, selling something completely lacking steel is weird. I would be interested to see how they handled a thumb hole opening, blade swapping method and of course pocket clip, but I don't see it happening. The trade guys who buy the ones already on the market would probably laugh at a "Spyderco price" for something like this.
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We're all Spydie fans here and many of us would buy one to support our favorite brand, but it's been brought up before and judging by the lack of response, I figure the powers that be don't think it's a niche they want to pursue. For this role, I bought a bunch of Gerber EAB's when they first came out for Christmas stocking stuffers. I even included a couple ceramic blades to make 'em salt worthy for my fishing buddies. Competitive market that I don't think Spyderco wants to spend valuable time on.
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No, I don't want a box cutter handle that uses disposable blades - the edge is too short for me, and the cardboard binds up where the blade meets the handle - I want an actual knife with a thin 2.5-3" blade (or not so thin blade with a thin grind) with the same shape as a box cutter

I understand why disposables are popular in this category, I'm just surprised there's never been an alternative
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There's a pretty long thread about the idea a several weeks past.

I'll just repeat what Sal asks each time some new request comes up: What item in the line up would you give up to make room for this new item?

Since we have no insight in to what Spyderco makes on each item, we'd have to make WAG as to whether or not this new item would be as profitable as the item it replaced. Also remember that a guaranteed seller beats a "maybe" seller every day.
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GarageBoy wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:39 am
No, I don't want a box cutter handle that uses disposable blades - the edge is too short for me, and the cardboard binds up where the blade meets the handle - I want an actual knife with a thin 2.5-3" blade (or not so thin blade with a thin grind) with the same shape as a box cutter

I understand why disposables are popular in this category, I'm just surprised there's never been an alternative
Maybe the performance Delica (coming soon-ish?) is what you are waiting for?

I just use a CS Click N Cut. Works well and is dead cheap. Blades can be sharpened a few times as well.
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It still wont be better than a box cutter though.
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VooDooChild wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:56 am
It still wont be better than a box cutter though.
Kinda sad but probably true. :winking-tongue
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Take a look at this thread, lots of options and discussions.

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JRinFL wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:43 am

I'll just repeat what Sal asks each time some new request comes up: What item in the line up would you give up to make room for this new item?
Counter Puppy -

Actually, looking at it, it's only 2.0mm thick - with a different blade shape, it'd be nice "utility knife" form - could sit on a work table too

I've read through the utility knife thread - I'm not looking for something that utilizes stanley or olfa style blades. I'm thinking more of yojimbo in dedicated "utility" form - if Cold Steel did a super thin tuff lite, it'd be what I'd want. Or is a 2-3" 0.025-0.050" thick blade to sketchy to sell to the public?
VooDooChild wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:56 am
It still wont be better than a box cutter though.
Surprised no one has done an XL Stanley knife with a longer blade
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GarageBoy wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 9:20 am
JRinFL wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:43 am

I'll just repeat what Sal asks each time some new request comes up: What item in the line up would you give up to make room for this new item?
Counter Puppy -

Actually, looking at it, it's only 2.0mm thick - with a different blade shape, it'd be nice "utility knife" form - could sit on a work table too

I've read through the utility knife thread - I'm not looking for something that utilizes stanley or olfa style blades. I'm thinking more of yojimbo in dedicated "utility" form - if Cold Steel did a super thin tuff lite, it'd be what I'd want. Or is a 2-3" 0.025-0.050" thick blade to sketchy to sell to the public?
VooDooChild wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:56 am
It still wont be better than a box cutter though.
Surprised no one has done an XL Stanley knife with a longer blade
CS Click N Cut is available in fixed and folder versions. It might be suitable to your needs. Certainly is inexpensive enough to give it a try.
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Actually, those look pretty cool - slim blades, decent blade shape and handle shape
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If you’re interested enough to contact a custom maker, you might be able to save few bucks by purchasing one of the Mickey Yurco customized Delica, Endela, or Endura wharncliffes and just having the blade ground as thin as possible. The knives already have a blade shape reminiscent of a utility blade, so adding a super thin regrind might be a way to achieve what you’re looking for.

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I have one. It’s a s110v native, g10 with liners, that was reground to .010” BTE

All I do with it is cut up cardboard and stuff to put in the recycling bin at the house
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Since way back in my restaurant management days, my dedicated box cutter has been one of those cheap, plastic handled steak knives.

Granted, I end up doing a lot more cardboard sawing than cutting, but those things go forever without getting too dull to function fairly well.
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Sal and Mike just came out with their most noble expression of the YoJumbo, or maybe that's a bit too much boxcutter for ya... in which case I would refer you to their YoJimbo or soon to be MicroJimbo. Then there's the McBee, Dogtag or return of the legendary Dodo on the smaller side of things. Really Spyderco is the only manufacturer I can think of that already has half a dozen boxcutters in their lineup, ánd in premium steels. And I didn't even mention the Canis... :cheap-sunglasses
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I'm gonna oversimplify the heck out of this and say, make a Native 5 with a "blade" that holds utility blades. I think it would be the perfect size for it, and using an existing model/tooling would cut down costs a lot.

The Gerber EAB is a great little utility knife but it's just not big enough for a guy who's cutting carpet all day (and if we're honest, in a job like that the quick blade deployment of a standard utility knife is going to be extremely hard to beat anyway).

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And furthermore as I look at that Native with the utility blade laying on it, I can't for the life of me understand why there isn't already a Native 5 wharnie. That is money in the bank right there.


This idea was even brought up 5 whole years ago.
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