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Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:58 am
by araneae
Another one to see where this shakes out. What do you prefer?

Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:05 am
by Evil D
I think if I had to choose I'd rather it was there, because like other features we've debated recently I can easily smooth them down a little if I find they're too aggressive, but adding them myself is more difficult.

Honestly though this whole thing (along with the Boye dent) could not be lower on my priority list for choosing a knife. I'd sooner be concerned about scale color than either of these because neither one really has a big impact on my uses. Jimping is something I had spent my entire life without and had never even thought of before buying my first Spyderco and I got by pretty ok without it.

Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:16 am
by araneae
Evil D wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:05 am
I think if I had to choose I'd rather it was there, because like other features we've debated recently I can easily smooth them down a little if I find they're too aggressive, but adding them myself is more difficult.

Honestly though this whole thing (along with the Boye dent) could not be lower on my priority list for choosing a knife. I'd sooner be concerned about scale color than either of these because neither one really has a big impact on my uses. Jimping is something I had spent my entire life without and had never even thought of before buying my first Spyderco and I got by pretty ok without it.
I guess I run opposite to you on this. I find that Spyderco does jimping better than anyone. There are so many companies that add it in the wrong place, or make it overly aggressive, or just barely there or just in a completely useless location. Spyderco jimping has the perfect amount of grip, it doesn't tear up your thumb and it increases traction and safety in use. It has been refined and is always thoughtfully done. It's basically perfect IMO. When it isn't there, especially on a work knife, I miss it. I use my work knives outdoors, in the dirt, mud, in and around streams, in winter and rain; I'll take any extra grip I can get to be certain I have that knife locked into my hand. I also have sweaty hands so even in optimal conditions, I like the extra security.

On a piece of pocket jewelry or something like a Bug knife, I can see skipping it. For me, no one does jimping better than Spyderco, so for it to not be there, the knife is missing a great finishing touch that Spyderco has mastered.

Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:28 am
by Evil D
araneae wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:16 am
Evil D wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:05 am
I think if I had to choose I'd rather it was there, because like other features we've debated recently I can easily smooth them down a little if I find they're too aggressive, but adding them myself is more difficult.

Honestly though this whole thing (along with the Boye dent) could not be lower on my priority list for choosing a knife. I'd sooner be concerned about scale color than either of these because neither one really has a big impact on my uses. Jimping is something I had spent my entire life without and had never even thought of before buying my first Spyderco and I got by pretty ok without it.
I guess I run opposite to you on this. I find that Spyderco does jimping better than anyone. There are so many companies that add it in the wrong place, or make it overly aggressive, or just barely there or just in a completely useless location. Spyderco jimping has the perfect amount of grip, it doesn't tear up your thumb and it increases traction and safety in use. It has been refined and is always thoughtfully done. It's basically perfect IMO. When it isn't there, especially on a work knife, I miss it. I use my work knives outdoors, in the dirt, mud, in and around streams, in winter and rain; I'll take any extra grip I can get to be certain I have that knife locked into my hand. I also have sweaty hands so even in optimal conditions, I like the extra security.

On a piece of pocket jewelry or something like a Bug knife, I can see skipping it. For me, no one does jimping better than Spyderco, so for it to not be there, the knife is missing a great finishing touch that Spyderco has mastered.


Well yes and no...I did vote yes in the poll and I'd rather have it than not have it, I'm just saying not having it isn't going to stop me from buying a knife if all the other boxes are checked for me. It's a detail I'm more willing to compromise on than things like handle grip points not fitting my fingers, grip being too far from the edge or strongly upswept blades with too much belly. I also sorta believe that the perfect grip design may not need jimping at all if it's design locks your hand in place, so for example a Kiwi 4 isn't going to benefit much by adding jimping.

Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:37 am
by steelcity16
Just like my undying passion for the Boye Dent on my Seki backlocks, jimping is also a must. It can absolutely be a deal breaker for me. The Rock Jumper is a great example. I don't have a Delica Wharnie at the moment, and I would probably choose the Rock Jumper over a Delica Wharnie based on the handle, but the lack of jimping and lack of a boye dent are a deal breaker for me so I will end up getting a Delica Wharnie. If the Rock Jumper has jimping and a boye dent I would 100% buy it, regardless of the handle color. It could be the ugliest shade of green, brown, yellow, whatever. Color for me will never be a deal breaker if I like everything else.

The Lil Native, Spyderhawk, Spyopera, and Worker are 4 models that I have owned and ended up selling, and all of them I felt needed jimping. I definitely think Sal and Eric should include jimping on the upcoming Lil Native LW, and well as any new Spyderhawk and Worker knives. The SpyOpera I get being a gentlemans knife, but I buy my knives to use so jimping is a must for me. The Chap is also a gentlemans knife and has spine and choil jimping, so I don't think is needs to be left off just because it is a gentlemen's knife either.

I have a couple of fixies from BRK and LT Wright that I am probably going to send in to have jimping added. I wish Spyderco would offer this service for knives like the Spyderhawk.

Here is my collection of users after my recent purge. ALL have great jimping. I doubt I will buy another knife without it.

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Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:44 am
by cycleguy
I tend toward liking it if it is done well (grippy but not uncomfortable), but it really doesn't matter that much to me. I've found that I don't like the way BRKT does it on their fixed blades so in this case it is a deal killer. I don't have any Spydercos I find objectionable. My vote went no preference.

CG

Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:46 am
by bearfacedkiller
It depends on the knife. On some I like it and on others I don’t. It also needs to be done right. I definitely do not like the excessive jimping on the Manix.

Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:06 am
by JD Spydo
I voted "no preference" because it's never been a deal maker or deal breaker either one for me. Now I do own quite a few Spyderco ( and other brands) knives that have jimping. But there are not all that many cutting jobs I've had where I thought that "jimping" was necessary.

Oh they can help with some cutting jobs I won't argue that for a second. I find that the grip factor on the handle itself has given me more help than most any jimping ever did.

But I'm finding this a very interesting thread and I hope to learn more from it.

Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:04 am
by JonLeBlanc
bearfacedkiller wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:46 am
I definitely do not like the excessive jimping on the Manix.
This. I've never quite been able to put into words why the Manix just doesn't do it for me (don't get me wrong, it's a cool knife, just not for me), but you've made me realize this is one reason.

Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:11 am
by The Deacon
bearfacedkiller wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:46 am
It depends on the knife. On some I like it and on others I don’t. It also needs to be done right. I definitely do not like the excessive jimping on the Manix.

Agreed. Depends on the knife, the style of jimping, and its placement. For me, that means the style on right, placed only on the thumb ramp (and perhaps in the blade portion of a 50/50 choil on knives that have them), and only on a knife with a distinct thumb ramp.

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Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 9:32 am
by Mushroom
It depends on the model for me as well but I would generally prefer no jimping.

The Lil Native is one model where no jimping really excels, in my opinion.

Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:11 am
by DSH007
Voted no preference.. as others have mentioned, it largely depends on the model for me. I think jimping can really assist in getting a good purchase on some knives and prefer it in certain models, especially small knives like the Manbug or DF2. On other more hand-filling knives and especially ergonomic designs (Manix 2), a little bit is fine, but excess jimping almost seems redundant.

The lack of jimping on the Rockjumper seems to be causing some controversy.. with regard to that particular model, I feel that the neutral handle fits my hand so well that jimping on the blade is entirely unnecessary. I probably wouldn't be upset if it was added to the blade somewhere down the line, but what jimping exists on the handle itself is sufficient, imo.

Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:21 am
by Sharp Guy
I voted no preference on this one too

I used to be firmly in the jimping camp. I now have a few Spyderco models and several from other brands that don't have any jimping. I don't miss at all on those models. In fact, I kind of like the smooth feel, especially on the spine when it's crowned. I like the clean look too

Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:36 am
by ugaarguy
I voted no preference, but - as The Deacon and bearfacedkiller have already written - it's really dependent on the model, the style of jimping, and where it is on the knife.

Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:38 am
by Dazen
I for one dislike jimping all together and prefer smooth everything. My hardest use knife is the Province and I’ve never wished there was jimping. I would love a jimpless Manix 2 and PM2.

IMO, Great ergos don’t need jimping!

Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:48 am
by Salty Dog
Love the jimping! Feels just right on the Para and PM2, one of the best features.
Im pimpin for Spyderco jimpin.

Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:05 am
by Bill1170
Dazen wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:38 am
I for one dislike jimping all together and prefer smooth everything. My hardest use knife is the Province and I’ve never wished there was jimping. I would love a jimpless Manix 2 and PM2.

IMO, Great ergos don’t need jimping!
Dremel tool?

Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:11 am
by vivi
I don't care strongly either way. I've never had issues with my thumb slipping on knives with no jimping, even if they have no thumb ramp like the Siren.

Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:15 am
by soulspy
I like it, but if it's not there, it is presumably not needed. See: Siren, Rock Jumper, Rock Lobster, Nilakka and Lil Nilakka, Rhino.

Re: Jimping poll

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:23 am
by VooDooChild
Me like jimping.