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Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:21 pm
by Reggy
I got my sight on an endura vg10 with a combo edge,just wondering about the purpose of the edge.

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:48 pm
by Hoot Gibson
I've been carrying combo blade Enduras (AUS8) for many years. First because they looked neat, then I discovered the utility of that configuration. I've cut lots of things I shouldn't have (copper wire, aluminum wire, steel cable, concrete) because of necessity (post Hurricane Andrew). Since then I've always had one. When I wore them out, I'd get another. (I've never been much of a knife sharpener until recently.) The serrations are great for cutting rope, as a mini-saw for cutting small tree branches, and they keep a useful cutting edge without much maintenance. The plain edge takes care of all those normal knife things I need to do. Around the yard and the shop it's the best configuration for the way I do things.

My "dress" knife is a Centofante III (soon to be a custom scaled Vesuvius) plain edge, and it doesn't get much hard use, but for those times when I'm not in a blue jeans environment, it gets the job done well.

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:46 am
by JD Spydo
Unlike a lot of my brethren here I actually like combo edged blades in certain situations. Particularly when a lot of rope cutting has to be done. However I don't really like combo edges on shorter blades. It has to be a folder like the Endura, C-36 Military or something else in that size range.

I had an older ATS-55 Endura in combo edge which I found quite handy on occasions. I also EDCed a combo edge for over 3 years before I became a devout Spyder-head. It was a Benchmade model 640, Boguszewski Spike model in CE and it was one of my better EDCs I ever used in the past 20 years.

Actually I've often wondered why Spyderco made more of their Catcherman model in CE than they did in any other edge type :confused: ? But the combo edge does have it's place for sure.

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:57 am
by Evil D
Generally no but now that I've come to love serrations I'm a lot more open to the idea. I still would prefer them to be on a larger blade so there's an adequate amount of each edge type.

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:12 am
by standy99
To be honest it’s great to have a sharp section of the blade when the front half dulls a bit. Great for extended fishing trips

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:30 am
by Wartstein
Probably I am the "exception among the exeptions" here, but I actually like combo edges in SMALLER blades - if only for very specific scenarios:

For example my CE Delica is my go to rock climbing knife, especially for multi pitch routes clipped with a carabiner through the opening hole to my harness.

I really love it in that capacity. It is short (so not dangling around too much) and light, the amount of serrations is enough for the diameters of the cordage you usual could have to cut in climbing (just up to 1 cm, that´s about 2/5 of an inch), the plain edge part is good for roughly cutting band aid and for food prep, or even for scraping sticky stuff off your palms (climbing is not always solely on rock, sometimes you have to grab some mountain pines or the like, which absorb resin)

On multiday outings you can be sure that the serrations will still cut (or at least "tear apart") when already dull.

So all in all a VERY versatile little tool.

/ In a very fictional "apocalypse scenario", if I could only have one folder (and not a fixed blade which I would of course prefer in such a situation), and no dedicated sharpening devices would be available: I´d probably choose my VG 10 CE Endura. Enough amount of both plain and serrated egde to be usefull, serrations will still "cut" when dull, plain VG 10 edge could still be sharpened on some makeshift devices (river bed rocks, ceramic mugs, glass...)

But to be honest, when not (multi pitch) rock climbing, I almost always carry PE blades.

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:51 am
by vivi
I like combo edges and would enjoy seeing more of them. I'd take a CE Police 4 FRN as a work knife.

I like the SE portion for cutting certain materials like rope and cardboard, and there is enough PE towards the front for fine tip work and slicing foods on a cutting board.

CE works better in big knives, Endura or larger.

Another benefit for me is less edge to reprofile. PE knives are ground too thick for my tastes. SE knives are ground at about half the thickness the PE versions of the same model are. That saves me a lot of time.

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:49 am
by sal
Hi Reggy, Hoot,

Welcome to our forum.

sal

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:03 pm
by Doeswhateveraspidercan
Love a combo edge. The only Para3 I own is a combo edgeS30V.

I wish Spyderco would make a Paramilitary 2 and a modern CQI Military combo edged. I sold my 52100 due to the steel corroding swiftly here.

My all time favorite is my combo Military but you have to be careful getting one as the older spydieedges are not as good as the newer. And there are several versions floating about on the secondary market.

As to why? Best of both worlds, lock in and cut serrations and slice and chop plain edge.

The military with it’s longer blade pulls off the combo perfectly.

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:32 pm
by zhyla
CE in a 30/70 PE/SE configuration can be very practical.

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:11 pm
by xceptnl
Evil D wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:57 am
Generally no but now that I've come to love serrations I'm a lot more open to the idea. I still would prefer them to be on a larger blade so there's an adequate amount of each edge type.
This is the only acceptable application for combo edges as far as my uses go. The Millie, Endura, 93mm Rescue and Catcherman are the only four that come to mind that meet this requirement.

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:12 pm
by xceptnl
zhyla wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:32 pm
CE in a 30/70 PE/SE configuration can be very practical.
The older 440V SE Millie was this way. maybe 25/75 or 20/80 PE/SE ratio. It was significantly longer than the later S30V versions.

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:20 pm
by FK
I much prefer to carry two Spyderco knives,,, one full SE and one PE.

My style of cutting is mainly slicing and not push strokes.

Regards,
FK

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:15 pm
by Hoot Gibson
sal wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:49 am
Hi Reggy, Hoot,

Welcome to our forum.

sal
Thanks Sal, this is a great place!

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 12:51 pm
by steelcity16
Vivi wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:51 am

I like combo edges and would enjoy seeing more of them. I'd take a CE Police 4 FRN as a work knife.

I like the SE portion for cutting certain materials like rope and cardboard, and there is enough PE towards the front for fine tip work and slicing foods on a cutting board.

CE works better in big knives, Endura or larger.

Another benefit for me is less edge to reprofile. PE knives are ground too thick for my tastes. SE knives are ground at about half the thickness the PE versions of the same model are. That saves me a lot of time.

Agreed. I hope a Foliage Green Combo Edge is one of the first Police LW variations.

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 2:07 pm
by The Meat man
I am most definitely not a combo edge fan. Every time I've used them, I'm reminded why I don't like them. It's never enough edge - either it's too little PE or not enough SE.

I love both edge types but for me they don't mix. Give me one or the other.

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 5:05 pm
by ladybug93
my first serious edc was a combo edge. i moved away from serrations around the time when everyone seemed to be swearing them off as unnecessary. i'm really glad that spyderco never gave up on them though because i now edc a se pacific salt along with a pe manix or yojimbo. personally, i like to carry one of each instead of a combo because i think each edge type has it's advantages and a combo edge doesn't necessarily accomplish the benefits of both. however, for the times when carrying one knife would be more comfortable or convenient, i wouldn't mind a ce native salt. i wish i had been around to pick up the never summer edition of the native. i love the combo edge with the dlc coating and the sweet color of the scales. if spyderco made a ce native salt with dlc, i'd have a hard time not picking one up even though i already have the native salt in pe.

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:14 pm
by steelcity16
xceptnl wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:11 pm
Evil D wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:57 am
Generally no but now that I've come to love serrations I'm a lot more open to the idea. I still would prefer them to be on a larger blade so there's an adequate amount of each edge type.
This is the only acceptable application for combo edges as far as my uses go. The Millie, Endura, 93mm Rescue and Catcherman are the only four that come to mind that meet this requirement.

The new Police LW would be perfect as well. I really want to see the Foliage Green combo edge variation on both the Police LW and the Endela.

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:26 pm
by bearrowland
I like the combo edge. The se portion holds an edge longer in my opinion, plus you get the fine edge as a bonus. My Endura is one of a few combos I own, and I like carrying them.

Re: Any combo edge fan and why?

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:15 pm
by JonLeBlanc
Doeswhateveraspidercan wrote:
Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:03 pm
Love a combo edge. The only Para3 I own is a combo edgeS30V.

I wish Spyderco would make a Paramilitary 2 and a modern CQI Military combo edged. I sold my 52100 due to the steel corroding swiftly here.

My all time favorite is my combo Military but you have to be careful getting one as the older spydieedges are not as good as the newer. And there are several versions floating about on the secondary market.

As to why? Best of both worlds, lock in and cut serrations and slice and chop plain edge.

The military with it’s longer blade pulls off the combo perfectly.
There actually is a 52100 Paramilitary in ComboEdge, is that the one you are referring to? If so, I'm sad to hear you had to let yours go because of corrosion; I honestly shouldn't even start talking about the 52100 family because I just won't stop :rolleyes: But anyway, that model is on my list, there's just a few knives ahead of it, and since it doesn't seem to be flying off the shelves, it's low priority right now lol. And regarding CE in general, I haven't liked serrations on purely an aesthetic level, but I do have a stainless CE Delica, and I must say that that inch or so of teeth have very often come in quite handy at work etc, so I suppose I shouldn't let my bias influence me too much. It's hard to argue with the functionality of serrations when it come to raw destructive power haha!