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Re: Taking apart knives - part 2
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:18 pm
by B12buddy
Thanks for the assist and glad to be here. I had a micrometer laying around and I think we're at roughly .500" OD, .250" ID, and 0.010" thick. I ordered the minimum (5 sets) from usaknifemaker.com. We'll see...
Stuck with my 15V Shaman for tonight I guess.
Re: Taking apart knives - part 2
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:20 am
by horzuff
Did anyone take apart the Stretch 2 XL Lightweight? Does it have bronze washers or does the blade run on FRN?
Edit: Didn't take it fully apart, so no photo, but I wanted to have all the body screw heads on the same side of the knife (from factory the handle ones are on one side and the pivot and backlock screw heads on the other) so I took the blade out and there were no washers, just a raised FRN disc on both sides
Re: Taking apart knives - part 2
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:59 pm
by Smaug
I'm late to the party here, but where is Part 1? Perhaps that should be either linked or merged into this thread?
Re: Taking apart knives - part 2
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:38 am
by vivi
horzuff wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:20 am
Did anyone take apart the Stretch 2 XL Lightweight? Does it have bronze washers or does the blade run on FRN?
Edit: Didn't take it fully apart, so no photo, but I wanted to have all the body screw heads on the same side of the knife (from factory the handle ones are on one side and the pivot and backlock screw heads on the other) so I took the blade out and there were no washers, just a raised FRN disc on both sides
It's constructed just like a Pacific Salt 2 on the inside. I took mine a part. If you search you could find photos I posted in one of the Stretch XL threads.
Re: Taking apart knives - part 2
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:39 am
by horzuff
vivi wrote: ↑Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:38 am
horzuff wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 2:20 am
Did anyone take apart the Stretch 2 XL Lightweight? Does it have bronze washers or does the blade run on FRN?
Edit: Didn't take it fully apart, so no photo, but I wanted to have all the body screw heads on the same side of the knife (from factory the handle ones are on one side and the pivot and backlock screw heads on the other) so I took the blade out and there were no washers, just a raised FRN disc on both sides
It's constructed just like a Pacific Salt 2 on the inside. I took mine a part. If you search you could find photos I posted in one of the Stretch XL threads.
So a Salt version is literally sticking a different steel sheet in the grinders, yellow pigment to the FRN molds and use salty hardware? Can't wait for a MagnaCut Salt then :D
Re: Taking apart knives - part 2
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:05 pm
by kirilpetkov
Re: Taking apart knives - part 2
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:40 am
by Paul Ardbeg
Re: Taking apart knives - part 2
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:42 pm
by KJKeyserSoze
Hello everyone,
I don't come here unless there is an issue I cannot solve myself.
A friend's knifecenter delica couldn't engage the back lock successfully, and so I took it apart and compared with mine...
now separately, I realised knifecenter's exclusive delica is also missing Sal's insignia. So did my friend get a clone instead ?
- updated my Drop supergold Delica also does not have SG insignia...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1c18TxHDKvr7Q3Zy5
the lock part simply is not seated into the cavity on the blade to engage properly... and there is a gap at the tail end of the lock bar. Tolerances aint' fantastic as far as I can tell. Lock bar seems to be a bit longer than the comparison one I have.
Any help is appreciated, and if he should send back to knifecenter, or if this is a clone, well, I will break the bad news to him.
Wesley
Re: Taking apart knives - part 2
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:44 am
by horzuff
I don't recall any laminated clones.
But this one looks as if the lockbar's "tooth" chipped away - look at the general shape of the protrusion that catches onto the blade. The working one is basically a rectangle while the KC one is a trapezoid. Are there any signs of a fracture?
Re: Taking apart knives - part 2
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2023 6:27 am
by KJKeyserSoze
horzuff wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:44 am
I don't recall any laminated clones.
But this one looks as if the lockbar's "tooth" chipped away - look at the general shape of the protrusion that catches onto the blade. The working one is basically a rectangle while the KC one is a trapezoid. Are there any signs of a fracture?
Thanks for the reply. No , I don’t see signs of fracture. Should we just send back to knifecenter?
Re: Taking apart knives - part 2
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:19 am
by horzuff
I wouldn't know how to solve it, so I would :)
Re: Taking apart knives - part 2
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:19 pm
by alphaneuron9
KJKeyserSoze wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:42 pm
Hello everyone,
I don't come here unless there is an issue I cannot solve myself.
A friend's knifecenter delica couldn't engage the back lock successfully, and so I took it apart and compared with mine...
now separately, I realised knifecenter's exclusive delica is also missing Sal's insignia. So did my friend get a clone instead ?
- updated my Drop supergold Delica also does not have SG insignia...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1c18TxHDKvr7Q3Zy5
the lock part simply is not seated into the cavity on the blade to engage properly... and there is a gap at the tail end of the lock bar. Tolerances aint' fantastic as far as I can tell. Lock bar seems to be a bit longer than the comparison one I have.
Any help is appreciated, and if he should send back to knifecenter, or if this is a clone, well, I will break the bad news to him.
Wesley
I would want to know what a spyderco quality inspections representative would say about the missing sal makers mark. That may be a ¨tell-tale¨sign. Anyone know if they are available on the forum? Maybe we can ask them to take a look. Those are good pics.
Re: Taking apart knives - part 2
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:08 pm
by Mushroom
alphaneuron9 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:19 pm
KJKeyserSoze wrote: ↑Fri Oct 13, 2023 11:42 pm
Hello everyone,
I don't come here unless there is an issue I cannot solve myself.
A friend's knifecenter delica couldn't engage the back lock successfully, and so I took it apart and compared with mine...
now separately, I realised knifecenter's exclusive delica is also missing Sal's insignia. So did my friend get a clone instead ?
- updated my Drop supergold Delica also does not have SG insignia...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/1c18TxHDKvr7Q3Zy5
the lock part simply is not seated into the cavity on the blade to engage properly... and there is a gap at the tail end of the lock bar. Tolerances aint' fantastic as far as I can tell. Lock bar seems to be a bit longer than the comparison one I have.
Any help is appreciated, and if he should send back to knifecenter, or if this is a clone, well, I will break the bad news to him.
Wesley
I would want to know what a spyderco quality inspections representative would say about the missing sal makers mark. That may be a ¨tell-tale¨sign. Anyone know if they are available on the forum? Maybe we can ask them to take a look. Those are good pics.
Sal’s makers mark was not always included on every one his models. It was only in mid-2019 that Spyderco began using Sal’s makers mark on all of his models.
Re: Taking apart knives - part 2
Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:36 pm
by BLADE_OCD
Smaug wrote: ↑Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:59 pm
I'm late to the party here, but where is Part 1? Perhaps that should be either linked or merged into this thread?
I found it. Everything makes sense now.
Here you go.
Taking apart knives Part 1
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=78032
