mrtodd777 wrote:Sorry Bodog, but these are facts as reported by a very reputable company. Read below in case you missed it.
"The issue DOES NOT affect other Spyderco models, including our other flipper-opening designs. A thorough review of our Warranty Repair records has conclusively confirmed this."
You cant argue with numbers. The people with complaints were most likely people that messed them up themselves and are not willing to admit it.. My mantra, a good friends mantra, another good friends domino are all perfect flipping machines and they all have one thing in common. We never attempted to adjust the pivot.
I personally don't care enough to argue. I know what I saw. I know it came that way from the factory. I know it's an issue that affects pretty much every ball bearing knife spyderco makes at some level. I don't care to buy another spyderco knife with ball bearings. Their phosphor bronze washers work well with their designs and are as good as or better than their competition. The bearings from spyderco are trying to fix something that's not broken and even then they're not getting it anywhere near as right as a lot of other companies. So I don't care, but people do need to know that apparently what's good enough for spyderco, concerning ball bearing pivots, is just good enough regardless of how well others are doing. That's their choice and will win or lose customers. That's on them. I can guarantee with almost everything I have that if most buyers could have ZT like action on their spyderco bearing knives they wouldn't turn that offer down. And I'm not particularly fond of ZT's designs, but they're getting flipping action correct. Spyderco hopefully steps up to that level or gets out of the bearing game because it's not really attractive seeing spyderco trying to keep up at something they're not good at and aren't trying to fix either. Take that for what it's worth.
Anyway, I'm starting to believe it's less about the bearing pivots causing sluggish action than it is the detent ball and rough ground tang. Grittiness, yes, the bearings, but slow action and misfires are looking like the detent ball, lockbar strength, and tangs finished roughly more and more. But that's a whole other debate.
As an aside, this is how it's supposed to be done. Standoffs that mean something, detent ramp, ceramic detent ball, thick, hardened races, free spinning bearings in a good cage, internal stop pin that doesn't sacrifice blade strength, lock bar overtravel stop that's not noticeable from the outside, polished tang, clip that's unobtrusive yet extremely functional and really classy.
If spyderco is listening this is a customized midtech that cost a little more than a nirvana but also came with a nice bead, a nice pivot tool, and a nice case. A base piece with none of the extras would cost about the same as a slysz bowie but the extras are included therefore raise the cost. As far as fit and functionality goes, this has the slysz bowie beat. As far as the finish goes, the slysz wins. Then again, this is a far more complicated knife with many small features that the slysz cannot compare to at all. The details are what puts this knife ahead with the ceramic detent, ramp, the best internal stop pin design I've personally seen, polished screws, detent perfectly tuned to use both the flipper and the hole, etc. Not only that but taking the knife apart is encouraged and has one of the best damned warranties and customer service philosophies I've could've ever thought of. This is the competition. This should've been the knife of the year at Blade Show.
And Chinese makers are doing about the same for even less but without the exceptional customer service.
Spyderco needs to step up it's game or it will be overtaken like Kershaw was. The competition is knocking at the door. Yes, I'm screaming at Spyderco. It's totally non-sensical to continue with the bearings and lack of features and price point they're trying to compete with. Other makers will pound spyderco down and they'll be producing second rate knives before long. Happened to A.G. Russell, Kershaw, etc. Sure, people will argue with me. I don't care. It's the truth. I hope Sal is listening.
That's all I have to say about that.