FRN Caly - am I alone?

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Interested in an FRN Caly?

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FRN Caly - am I alone?

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Am I alone in really wishing there was an FRN Caly 3? You'd think such a great and popular design would have made it that far. Either linerless or designed like the Delicas - would be awesome, in my opinion. Might as well be BRG with ZDP 189 blade, while we're at it, though VG 10 is great, too.

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I think the problem is that if you make it FRN and make it cheaper, it starts to eat into Delica sales.
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You have a point, but it'd also sell well, I think, and I still love my Delicas.

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I am huge Caly fan. But strongly prefer Caly3: liners, no swedge, tip down carry. Still if Spyderco will make Caly Jr VG10/FRN (the next best thing) sprint most likely I would buy couple for my nephews.
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Hey Jazz. I totally hear ya!

The Caly project is more aficionado aligned. Personally FRN is my fave material but I'm not sure everyone would agree.
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Blerv wrote:Hey Jazz. I totally hear ya!

The Caly project is more aficionado aligned. Personally FRN is my fave material but I'm not sure everyone would agree.
I'm in agreement. Most days FRN is my favorite too. I love my FRN Caly Jrs, I'm taking the maroon ZDP to work tomorrow, just touching it up now.

I'd love to see an FRN Caly, but from what I understand tooling brand new FRN molds is not cheap.
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Maybe they could just use the handles from a UKPK and throw a lock on it and a Caly balde?
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beatlman87 wrote:Maybe they could just use the handles from a UKPK and throw a lock on it and a Caly balde?
I would rather see handles like the Squeak's personally.
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avocadobbq wrote:I would rather see handles like the Squeak's personally.
I too am a fan of the frn scales on the squeak.
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Ummm... guys, there already IS a FRN Caly. And it used to come in various flavors, with handles ranging from common black to gray or even burgundy

For my part, I would very much like an H1 blade with yellow FRN scales. Cosidering that full flat grind is not an option with H1, they could use a high grind like at the H1 Dragonfly :D
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I still need to get a Caly.
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I've got a grey VG10 and a burgundy ZDP Caly Jr. The fish-scale patterned FRN is one of my favorites and I would certainly pick up another color/steel if it were offered. They are incredibly thin and lightweight. I like Dialex's idea for one in H1, which is very appropriate with the fish-scale pattern.
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To be honest I'd rather see less FRN used on folders.
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Sal's already sounded amenable to the possibility of another FRN Calypso Jr Sprint, so there's probably a better chance of that than of an FRN Caly 3 which would require expensive new molds and tooling. However, a Caly 3 style blade with no spine bevel might be possible.
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If we did another FRN Caly, it would either be a sprint of the Caly Jr. or we'd tool up for a Caly 3 model in FRN. However, most of the comments have been to keep the caly 3 & Caly 3.5 in slab scales. Why would you want an FRN version of a Caly 3 or 3.5?

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sal wrote:If we did another FRN Caly, it would either be a sprint of the Caly Jr. or we'd tool up for a Caly 3 model in FRN. However, most of the comments have been to keep the caly 3 & Caly 3.5 in slab scales. Why would you want an FRN version of a Caly 3 or 3.5?

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I'm a big FRN fan. It's light, tough, doesn't lose it's grippyness, and looks great in whatever color you do it in. I'm picturing, just to be clear, a Caly 3 with Delica-like texturing. What brought this to my mind was the fact that there's no more G10 Caly 3 in the lineup, which I really miss (I modded mine and really wish I didn't :( ). A linerless UKPK with a lock would be just as awesome, though... :p ... or just bring back the G10 Caly 3. Whatever you do, I'll be happy - I still have a pile of Delicas and a ZDP Caly 3. Thanks for the comment, Sal.

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sal wrote:If we did another FRN Caly, it would either be a sprint of the Caly Jr. or we'd tool up for a Caly 3 model in FRN. However, most of the comments have been to keep the caly 3 & Caly 3.5 in slab scales. Why would you want an FRN version of a Caly 3 or 3.5?

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I'm not sure if your questions was rhetorical or not, but I'll attempt to answer anyway. I feel I already have an FRN version of the Caly 3 in the UK Penknife, minus the lock and FFG of course. The CF ZDP Caly 3 is my most carried knife. I love the ergonomics, but there are sometimes I'd rather carry a knife that is a little less nice/refined. That is when I carry a Delica or Salt, or FRN UK. So do I need a FRN Caly 3/3.5? - No, I don't. I have knives to fill it's void.

Do I want an FRN Caly? Absolutely. Why? I'd love a FRN, FFG,locking version of the UK Penknife. I think I'd be more likely to carry it on my outdoor adventures than my CF Caly. As stated above, it may displace my Delica from my pocket on occasions, but can we ever have too many options?

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sal wrote:If we did another FRN Caly, it would either be a sprint of the Caly Jr. or we'd tool up for a Caly 3 model in FRN. However, most of the comments have been to keep the caly 3 & Caly 3.5 in slab scales. Why would you want an FRN version of a Caly 3 or 3.5?

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For one I think making a FRN Caly 3 or 3.5 would give those of us who just don't care that much for G-10 or other materials a nice option away from the Delica and Endura. Perhaps using the wire clip and smoother scales similar to the UKPK series would make these a bit more desirable for people who wear slacks or have less durable pockets. I tend to think of the Delica and Endura as straight working knives and by making something like the Caly 3 or 3.5 FRN they would fill a role as a bit more refined EDC. Something that would be at home in an office setting as well as in a field setting. Another thing that might make these sell is the pointed tip, something that the Delica and Endura now lack. I realize why the pointed tip of the Delica and Endura III's was discontinued for the IV's yet I still prefer having a knife with a sharp tip and that's part of what attracted me to Spyderco in the first place.

On a more personal preference note I wouldn't mind to see these (if they are ever made) to be linerless. I realize that I'm in the minority there but I haven't broken any of my Endura or Delica III's nor my Native yet and they have minimal blade play. Either way I'd love to see more FRN options and wouldn't mind paying a bit more if that was a what is required.

Thanks for chiming in Sal.
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Good info. Thanx. What would be the preferred texture?

My leaning would still be for a lined model. While the wire clip doesn't need a liner, the pivots gain some for having them.....but that too is up for discussion. Skeletonized liners don't add much weight, but add rigidity, kinda like an internal skeleton.

I carry a 3.5 quite a bit. It's legal in my part of the world and large enough for food processing (fruit, etc). I also like FRN for it's toughness and lower final cost. Tooling is expensive so the investment must be considered as a long term model.

We felt that the Slipits that we're making in FRN would be around long term because of the trend in laws worldwide is to non-lockers. The UK, Squeak, Pingo models are legal in most places as EDC's.

The Caly 3/3.5 is more of an afi model and we'd have to determine if the market is large enough to support the tooling costs long term.

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I'd be just as happy with a special sprint run of the Caly Jr., while tooling investment goes into new designs.
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