Spyderco's First Flipper!

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Spyderco's First Flipper!

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Just in case this hasn't been posted yet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71DBFEnu ... AAAAAAAAAA
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What would be the use of having a spyderhole and a flipper?
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hawaiihunter wrote:What would be the use of having a spyderhole and a flipper?
Many flipper knives also have thumb studs. It's just another way of opening it.

The driving reason for this one (I think) is due to it being a Southard collaboration. Similar to how Spyderco doesn't really do tanto blades unless it's a Lum design.
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I'm really looking forward to that one.
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hawaiihunter wrote:What would be the use of having a spyderhole and a flipper?
I love flippers but I don't always like the thwack my blade open in public. Thumbhole helps this IMO. Plus I want a flipper with Spyderco's awesomeness added to it and it's not like they're going to make folder without a thumbhole...
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TheMelonPopper wrote:Just in case this hasn't been posted yet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71DBFEnu ... AAAAAAAAAA
It was posted in the Amsterdam thread.
hawaiihunter wrote:What would be the use of having a spyderhole and a flipper?
Uses:

1) Identification and branding - the trademark round hole quickly and easily identifies this as a Spyderco brand knife.

2) Discretion - sometimes you don't want to loudly and obviously snap a knife open. The hole allows for slower (and quieter) openings.

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Don't see any point in this. The hole is the reason I got in to Spyderco to start with. Just because of that, this one is not on my list to get. I know there are a lot of opinions about that, but the way I look at it is "if it's not broken, why fix it". The Spyderco hole is the way to open a knife for me. Not a big fan of the knife design either.
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Where do we pre-order
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DiKa wrote:Don't see any point in this. The hole is the reason I got in to Spyderco to start with. Just because of that, this one is not on my list to get. I know there are a lot of opinions about that, but the way I look at it is "if it's not broken, why fix it". The Spyderco hole is the way to open a knife for me. Not a big fan of the knife design either.
....the flipper is just an element in the design; not good or bad. As Sal would say, just different. The nice thing about Spyderco is there seems to be something for everyone. I try to appreciate the uniqueness of each of Spyderco's knives, and then pass on the ones that might not work for me. But I have the same issue that most of us have that hang out here.....nearly every model Spyderco releases seems to work for me. lol. :D
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sign me up for 3!

something about three...

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I like the looks of this knife, and would be happy to try out a flipper design. The blade-steel is a good choice; knife looks like a nice size for EDC. I suspect I'll buy one when it's available. Thanks, Eric, Sal and gang.
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Check AG Russel - thought I saw one there last I was up.
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Well there is even less reason for a hole in a fixed blade but that doesn't stop them being being darn sweet knives.
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Glad to hear Eric confirm that the Spyderco version is using a ball bearing system.
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jabba359 wrote: 1) Identification and branding - the trademark round hole quickly and easily identifies this as a Spyderco brand knife.
It ain't necessarily true...

Take a look at my new Benchmade.
http://www.knifeworks.com/benchmadeafck ... tonly.aspx

I got it yesterday. Benchmade and a former Seal Team member Chris Caracci collaborated on this design. This is basically a "famous" BM model 701 on steroids. As I understand it, the Spyderco "spyder-hole" trademark has expired, and so is free for other manufacturers to use as desired. Benchmark knows a good thing when it sees it.
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For the same reason the Vallotton has a thumb stud. It's a collaboration thing. Some makers have certain trademark type things they wish to have incorporated into their collab knives and i'm assuming this is something Brad Southard wanted on his model. It also has to do with the fact this is Brad's design which was already laid out so Spyderco is just putting their touch on it.
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Regardless of one's feelings on the flipper, this appears to be a very nice design. I would very much like to hold one. :D I've owned several "flipper" knives and have been impressed. I'm sure Spyderco will do a fantastic job with this model. Maybe I should start writing my list to Santa now... :)
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Sonny wrote:It ain't necessarily true...

Take a look at my new Benchmade.
http://www.knifeworks.com/benchmadeafck ... tonly.aspx

I got it yesterday. Benchmade and a former Seal Team member Chris Caracci collaborated on this design. This is basically a "famous" BM model 701 on steroids. As I understand it, the Spyderco "spyder-hole" trademark has expired, and so is free for other manufacturers to use as desired. Benchmark knows a good thing when it sees it.
I enjoy both brands immensely.
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Regardless of who uses it, the round hole opener is still a widely recognized feature of Spyderco. Hence why all custom makers that use it do so w/ Spyderco's permission and pay (very small) royalties to Spyderco. Just b/c someone else uses it doesn't take away from the fact that it's a signature feature of Spyderco. Benchmade's use of the round hole hasn't exactly always been that well received either. IIRC, your "new" Benchmade was one of the models where this happened which I believe is why the early liner lock ones had a round hole, but the axis long ones after them moved to a round hole. I could be totally off base though and I shouldn't be talking about this anyway on here but there are people on here that boycott Benchmade.
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So apparently patents are good for 20 years...who knew? I didn't...anyway I like the flipper. Don't know about all of you but I am getting a back log of Spydies that I want.
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DeltaWhiskey wrote:So apparently patents are good for 20 years...who knew? I didn't...anyway I like the flipper. Don't know about all of you but I am getting a back log of Spydies that I want.
There is no question that the copyright has expired. The issue in question is trademark, a completely different legal issue. The patent covered any kind of hole in the blade. The trademark issue concerns only the round hole.
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