Sal wants input on a new CC design

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Sal wants input on a new CC design

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According to this post here from the BF Spydie forum;



http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showt ... did=296336



Sal is requesting some input on what would make the ideal credit card knife.



I personally love the <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>Card, but the weight is the only thing that I have an issue with. I think that a run of 'Cards with Titanium handles and VG10 or S30V steel would be awesome!!



What do you think?



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Just grabbed mine, had a look at it and would only like it to be 10% smaller. Since it's much thicker then a normal CC, it doesn't always fit in the CC compartments of wallets.
Everything else is just fine. Grip is good. Lock is rock-solid. Steel is good enough.

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I also just picked one up, it is amazing. If it could be lighter and still be as solid that would be great. I always like Titanium so that would be good, but isn't this excatly what Carbon Fiber was designed for?
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I think that the current model is great but the weight could be a little less.

If a fully internal central spring/springs could be used, it could be transformed into a twin blade knife. Providing a different style of blade at each end of the card.
Cut outs in the frame (arcs) (nice bevelled edges) the same size as the Spydie holes could facilitate one handed opening for each blade.

Some grooved thumb shaped areas at each end of the frame could be added to provide better grip when removing the card from tight wallet compartments!

The extra blade would be good but a couple of tools would be handy. A bottle opener and a screw driver would be good?

Just a couple of ideas.

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Gang -

Howz 'bout an FRN handle?

Should reduce the weight and the blade steel
could be upgraded ( the cost should balance out <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>)

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Thanks for the heads up. I'd rather go with an approach a la Ed Halligan (KISS), in order to make it slim.
FRN would make it lightweight, but the card would be much too thick.
However, I think Bradichansky already designed a great credit card knife. All I'd do would be to modify the blade shape from Wharncliffe / sheepsfoot to a one with a bit of belly and maybe put a compression lock.

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2 words:

CARBON FIBER.

I like the current design a lot, but anything that could be done to make the knife lighter and slightly thinner without giving up its strength would be simply awesome.

One other complaint that I have heard with the current version was mentioned lately over at Blade Forums (I'd link there but the site is down): It seems like there was a slight manufacturing problem related to bending the steel along the spine of the knife - every Spydercard I've ever seen has at least one or two teeny tiny little cracks along the edges where the steel was bent. Seems to be merely a cosmetic problem (barely noticeable) as the cracks don't seem to get any bigger over time...
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I really love the spydercard and have three of them - 2 SE and one PE. I'm with Dialex and ted - maybe make it a little smaller and play with the blade shape. I would not substitute CF or Ti for the steel. What about an aluminum alloy?? I rather like the weight. Feels like a "real knife" instead of a toy. But I concur with ted - it doesn't fit in all of the CC slots, or it's so thick that it means it squeezes out space for other CC's in a given area.

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I have a Spydercard and think it's the best overall credit card knife around. My suggestion would be to make it thinner, upgrade the steel and play around with different blade shapes.
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Had another thought - inspired by my SpydeRench. You could save substantial weight by creating a kind of half sleeve for the blade to tuck behind on one sleeve, while keeping it full on the other.

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Overall, I think the Spydercard is a very well thought knife. I agree that if it could be any lighter or slimmer, it would be perfect. I had in mind the KISS design, with only one side of the handle and the blade resting flush on it but I don't know what it would do for the grip and it's not really Spyderco-like. Just a bit smaller would be great. I don't carry mine as a EDC, since I always have something else in my pocket for that purpose. I use it for self-defense, so if any bum wants my money, I'll have the surprise effect on my side, having a knife in my hand out of nowhere. So I don't carry it is a CC slot, I keep it where the bills go. The fact that it's just a bit too big makes it fit too tight in the slot and couldn't reach for it very quickly in an emergency. To me, the size is a bigger concern that the weight and such.

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My biggest suggest is to provide some kind of finger protection up front. I like the Spydercard enough that there are times where it's my main using knife -- and I'd use it more, but once you start doing more than light cutting, you start to worry about how easy it is for your fingers to slide forward.

Making it lighter wouldn't be a horrible idea either. Of course, any reduction in weight or thickness will reduce strength, so that has to be traded off. Perhaps a slab construction with G-10 on the non-lock side?

For me, though, it's the finger protection that's the key thing I'd like re-engineered.

The thing I definitely don't want mucked with too much is the general blade shape. A straight edge with a sharp point is the ticket. The blade in the Microtech credit card knife is a prime example of what, to me, is least useful.

Joe
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