LC200N or BD1N

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Re: LC200N or BD1N

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Yup you're only going to see it at 62hrc unless you use those gentleman.



Pelagic wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:03 am
Bodog wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:43 pm
Deadboxhero wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:30 pm
AEBL doesn't go to 67, I wish it did but it's basically capped at 62-63. Even Nitro V which has a higher working hardness only hits 64rc.
Bodog wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 6:09 pm


Would you think a military in BD1N at $110 could be better than a military in S30V at $170? I do. Especially if they make the BD1N at about 64RC.

What I'd really love to see is spyderco playing with heat treatments and giving disclaimers on the knives like they do with non-stainless steels. I think a military in AEBL at 66-67 RC would be extremely interesting, especially given that AEBL is a fraction of the cost of S30V. A military in AEBL at 67 RC at a $110 price point? Count me in. A military in AEBL at 60 RC at $160? Negative.

Then again, I'm odd. Im in a quandry. I think the military is my favorite knife design I've ever tried. I also think that with S30V its also one of the most overpriced. So what can be done? Would AEBL or BD1N drop the price significantly and give results that are at least almost as good as S30V in abrasion resistance while giving much better results with toughness and corrosion resistance and much improved edge stability? I think so.

People say they'd like to see a cliff stamp collaboration. I do too, but not in the normal sense of what most people think. I'd like to see what spyderco would do if they let cliff take a knife like the military and make it how he said to make it. Thinner behind the edge, different steel, higher hardness, specific heat treatment, more contouring on the handles. That's what I'd like to see rather than a new, unique overall design. Let him tweak an existing design to his specs. That'd be something to test, right there.

And screw it, let Ankerson do one too. Put them head to head in real world use. I'd love to see that. It'd be truly competitive contest, both with valid opinions and desired outcomes. I'd have to buy both.
https://youtu.be/eFzRgYPjbgk

AEBL +/- 66 RC, 8 DPS.
https://youtu.be/dD_Yk-YXdiI

This as well.
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Re: LC200N or BD1N

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Hi Bodog,

Changing steels on the Military would not reduce the cost 1/3rd.

If Cliff wanted to do a Collaboration, I would make whatever he wanted however he wanted it.

Ankerson has done a collaboration.. Should be out this year or early next.

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