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Re: The ultimate grail… work knife.
Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:45 am
by JoviAl
sal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:19 am
Hey Al,
You gonna draw one or should I have our guy Peter put a drawing together?
sal
Hi Sal,
I can definitely put a concept drawing together, I just need to tear down one of my Manix XL’s tonight to see the orientation and space the standard CBBL takes up.
What is the best way to send you the images once I’m done?
Re: The ultimate grail… work knife.
Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:57 am
by Wartstein
JoviAl wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:45 am
sal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:19 am
Hey Al,
You gonna draw one or should I have our guy Peter put a drawing together?
sal
Hi Sal,
I can definitely put a concept drawing together, I just need to tear down one of my Manix XL’s tonight to see the orientation and space the standard CBBL takes up.
What is the best way to send you the images once I’m done?
Another CBBL model besides Manix 2 and XL would be amazing... and if inspired by one who obviously really uses his knives a lot even more so!
Re: The ultimate grail… work knife.
Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:09 am
by sal
Hi Al,
Contact Peter Jhones at Spyderco. He's the manager of Research and Development. He also handles legal stuff.
pjhones@spyderco.com You have to do some paperwork to protect both of us. I've already emailed Peter about this thread and brought him into the loop.
sal
Re: The ultimate grail… work knife.
Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:10 am
by JoviAl
Wartstein wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:57 am
JoviAl wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:45 am
sal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:19 am
Hey Al,
You gonna draw one or should I have our guy Peter put a drawing together?
sal
Hi Sal,
I can definitely put a concept drawing together, I just need to tear down one of my Manix XL’s tonight to see the orientation and space the standard CBBL takes up.
What is the best way to send you the images once I’m done?
Another CBBL model besides Manix 2 and XL would be amazing... and if inspired by one who obviously really uses his knives a lot even more so!
Thanks Gernot
I adore the Manix XL but I’m always getting plant matter stuck in the finger choil. Maybe this is my chance to offer an alternative. Feels a bit surreal to be drawing up a knife design proposal for Sal though
Re: The ultimate grail… work knife.
Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:12 am
by JoviAl
sal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:09 am
Hi Al,
Contact Peter Jhones at Spyderco. He's the manager of Research and Development. He also handles legal stuff.
pjhones@spyderco.com You have to do some paperwork to protect both of us. I've already emailed Peter about this thread and brought him into the loop.
sal
Thanks Sal, I’ll crack on with it tonight and get the first iteration sent over to Peter.
Re: The ultimate grail… work knife.
Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:57 am
by RugerNurse
Time to start saving my money up
Re: The ultimate grail… work knife.
Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 6:13 am
by benben
JoviAl wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:12 am
sal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:09 am
Hi Al,
Contact Peter Jhones at Spyderco. He's the manager of Research and Development. He also handles legal stuff.
pjhones@spyderco.com You have to do some paperwork to protect both of us. I've already emailed Peter about this thread and brought him into the loop.
sal
Thanks Sal, I’ll crack on with it tonight and get the first iteration sent over to Peter.
Very cool, now this is what makes this forum and the Spyderco brand so great!
Re: The ultimate grail… work knife.
Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:08 am
by TimButterfield
TimButterfield wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:32 am
That sounds interesting. A Carribean sized backlock with SE Magnacut and dark green burlap micarta. If it's still a Salt and needs a water themed name, maybe call it the Salish after the Puget Sound/Salish Sea area and all of the islands, dark water, and evergreens around there. Put me down for one.
CBBL instead? Okay, I'm out. I may try it some day, but I'm no longer enthused. I would have liked it in another lock style, but not that one. Maybe it's just my Manix, but there is too much tension on the spring for me and I'm not interested in having to tweak it to get it comfortable. And, this is from someone who types for a living (software developer). I know others like that style of lock, but it just doesn't work well for me. It will still be fun to watch something happen. That's always a good time.
Re: The ultimate grail… work knife.
Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:45 am
by Wartstein
TimButterfield wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:08 am
CBBL instead? Okay, I'm out. I may try it some day, but I'm no longer enthused. I would have liked it in another lock style, but not that one. Maybe it's just my Manix, but there is too much tension on the spring for me and I'm not interested in having to tweak it to get it comfortable. And, this is from someone who types for a living (software developer). I know others like that style of lock, but it just doesn't work well for me. It will still be fun to watch something happen. That's always a good time.
I figure it must be your particular example!
I always found it easy to operate the CBBL even with just one finger (thumb OR index finger) on each CBBL model I tried (four, I think)
Re: The ultimate grail… work knife.
Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:57 am
by TimButterfield
Wartstein wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:45 am
TimButterfield wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:08 am
CBBL instead? Okay, I'm out. I may try it some day, but I'm no longer enthused. I would have liked it in another lock style, but not that one. Maybe it's just my Manix, but there is too much tension on the spring for me and I'm not interested in having to tweak it to get it comfortable. And, this is from someone who types for a living (software developer). I know others like that style of lock, but it just doesn't work well for me. It will still be fun to watch something happen. That's always a good time.
I figure it must be your particular example!
I always found it easy to operate the CBBL even with just one finger (thumb OR index finger) on each CBBL model I tried (four, I think)
Perhaps, but I have similar dislikes for cross/ambidextrous locks in other brands also such as the Iridium from Kaiser or even Benchmade. I only have the old Benchmades like the 625 Crawford. I won't buy a newer one and I gave away the Iridium I had. I almost gave away my Manix, but decided to keep trying it just in case it got better. So far, it hasn't. It would probably work just fine for you.
I'm still curious to see how this new design turns out, though.
Re: The ultimate grail… work knife.
Posted: Mon Mar 04, 2024 7:57 am
by SaltyCaribbeanDfly
Spyderco has got to be hands down the coolest knife company on planet Earth…let the Sal & Al show begin
Re: The ultimate grail… work knife.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:45 pm
by dullmaker
JoviAl wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:12 am
sal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 1:09 am
Hi Al,
Contact Peter Jhones at Spyderco. He's the manager of Research and Development. He also handles legal stuff.
pjhones@spyderco.com You have to do some paperwork to protect both of us. I've already emailed Peter about this thread and brought him into the loop.
sal
Thanks Sal, I’ll crack on with it tonight and get the first iteration sent over to Peter.
One reason Spyderco is my favorite knife company. It doesn't get much cooler than this. Put me down for 1!
Bruce
Re: The ultimate grail… work knife.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:17 pm
by hambone56rx
sal wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 12:19 am
Hey Al,
You gonna draw one or should I have our guy Peter put a drawing together?
sal
This is why I love Sal, Eric and Spyderco!
Hamilton
Re: The ultimate grail… work knife.
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:25 am
by JoviAl
My initial concept design is ready to hand to Spyderco for review and refinement, just waiting for a friend to turn it into a CAD format now.
*edited for clarity.
Re: The ultimate grail… work knife.
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:44 am
by sal
Hi Al,
You will need to contact our R&D/Legal guy, Peter.
Peterj@spyderco.com so you can get the paperwork sorted before you show anything to us. It's a formality but necessary. Peter is aware of this thread and he's also started to put something together based on your early description. You'll be working with Peter on refining the design, as well. He's our R&D Manager and he's been with us for more than 25 years.
sal
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"Continual improvement is our evolutionary obligation to humankind".
sal
Re: The ultimate grail… work knife.
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:49 am
by JoviAl
sal wrote: ↑Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:44 am
Hi Al,
You will need to contact our R&D/Legal guy, Peter.
Peterj@spyderco.com so you can get the paperwork sorted before you show anything to us. It's a formality but necessary. Peter is aware of this thread and he's also started to put something together based on your early description. You'll be working with Peter on refining the design, as well. He's our R&D Manager and he's been with us for more than 25 years.
sal
____________________________________________________________________________________
"Continual improvement is our evolutionary obligation to humankind".
sal
Hi Sal,
I’ve been in touch with Peter already and have the docs to sign
Thank you for this opportunity - even if it never gets past the concept stage for whatever reason it has been extremely educational. Who knew designing a folding knife could be so complicated?
Thank you for this opportunity - even if it never gets past the concept stage for whatever reason it has been extremely educational. Who knew designing a folding knife could be so complicated? 