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Couldn't resist, was hoping for a re-release of the Knifeworks PM2 or a Military (although I do know they won't do that one again because it didn't sell well), so this will do as I don't have a Shaman yet. First new knife purchase in 8 months

Here’s a chart from Larrin comparing various stainless steels including Elmax and 204P:

I've got nothing but good things to say about 204p. sharpens surprisingly well for being such a wear resistant stainless steel, great corrosion resistance and edge holding is definitely better than S30V.

These 204p releases look so good. Hope we see a Military 2 someday!

I was just looking at my 2 Shamans and was thinking...that DLC 4V blade and hardware sure would look sweet in these handles!! Satin 204P in red wouldn't be bad either...but I also love that red/black combo.

WilliamMunny wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:22 pm

That’s is a very good looking green.

Okay I will put it out there…. If you were going to buy one which is the better knife? Grey Elmax or Green 204P? Is it just color preference or is the 204P a noticeable step above Elmax?

Pretty similar, both stainless, ELMAX is tougher, 204P has more edge retention

RamZar wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:55 pm

Here’s a chart from Larrin comparing various stainless steels including Elmax and 204P:

I appreciate Larrin and his meticulous work, and the fact that he shares it all for free. I was on his website looking at this chart, then at the elemental composition chart; and after looking at all the numbers, my head started to hurt a little. Sooo much information.

RamZar wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:55 pm

Here’s a chart from Larrin comparing various stainless steels including Elmax and 204P:
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Just going by this chart I don´t see why I should choose Elmax over S30V - pretty similar, right?

Of course I don´t know if the heat treat Spyderco applies perhaps enhances the slight differences - but as it is, I´d prefer the "base" S30V Shaman, and be it only for the cool sonewashed blade finish...

And of course people who know more about steels than I and are able to detect finer differences might enjoy Elmax over S30V

EDIT: Post would have fit better in the actual ELMAX Shaman thread... (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=93097)...

Well, Got the 204P Shaman, guess I own 3 Shamans now. Rex 45, M4 and 204P. When lc200n? When Magnacut?

do i need it? :o

TheGiant80 wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:18 pm

Dang! That is pretty. If I didn't already have a Shaman stolen by customs this week I'd be all over it.

I risked myself, told them to tighten down the pivot so it's hard to open one handed..... we'll see...

Fireman wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:05 am

Well, Got the 204P Shaman, guess I own 3 Shamans now. Rex 45, M4 and 204P. When lc200n? When Magnacut?

Have you seen what Shawn posted on his IG about Spyderco heat treat of magnacut? If you haven't I suggest you go check it out. It's nothing but a hint that things are coming honestly. But I'm dreaming of a whole line of magnacut sprints like they did for rex45...

That's a beautiful knife. I've got the old school PM2 and Military exclusives from KW. The Military in particular is one of my favorites. Great colors and exceptional steel.
But I've got to pass since I've already got 2 Shamans that aren't carried nearly enough.

Holding strong for my imaginary BentoBox K390 Ranger green.

PStone wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:41 am

Holding strong for my imaginary BentoBox K390 Ranger green.

Nice! I might be with you on that.

I'm still holding steady with my early run s30v and the CruCarta. It's possible that's all I will need in the Shaman department.

Rinzler wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:12 pm

TheGiant80 wrote: ↑

Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:18 pm

Dang! That is pretty. If I didn't already have a Shaman stolen by customs this week I'd be all over it.

Just have someone buy it, disassemble, then forward to you in two shipments. I used to offer this to others in cunickistan but never had any takers. Guess it’s easier to roll the dice…

If I hadn't just lost my money on that micarta Shaman I would take you up on that offer immediately!

Vaugith wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:03 am

Fireman wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 16, 2022 2:05 am

Well, Got the 204P Shaman, guess I own 3 Shamans now. Rex 45, M4 and 204P. When lc200n? When Magnacut?

Have you seen what Shawn posted on his IG about Spyderco heat treat of magnacut? If you haven't I suggest you go check it out. It's nothing but a hint that things are coming honestly. But I'm dreaming of a whole line of magnacut sprints like they did for rex45...

I will buy all my favorites in LC200N and Magna Cut. I want to get titanium scales for a stainless shaman and either of those will get that treatment. Now that I have the 204P, I will get the Titanium scales for sure. I just wish Spyderco make some factory ones. They would sell like hotcakes. A Ti-Salt Shaman would be bees knees https://youtu.be/0qjvuhztaWU

I will use my M4 shaman as a work beater, my Rex45 as an EDC and the Ti 204P as a corrosion champ until the LC200N or Magna Cut version happens

Struggling not to buy.....

Gtscotty wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 16, 2022 7:27 pm

Struggling not to buy.....

PStone wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:41 am

Holding strong for my imaginary BentoBox K390 Ranger green.

That will be the most expensive Shaman offered by a dealer.