Mushroom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:14 am
Wartstein wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 11:38 pm
Michael Janich wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 7:25 am
...for a bushcraft-worthy knife, the strength of a Compression Lock is a significant advantage.....
Of course not claiming at all that I'd know even remotely close to what you (and of course also Sal) know about knife designs and lock strength - but that said:
Is it a "significant advantage" indeed -?
I always say that I find the comp.lock an ingenious design, especially the way how it makes the basic idea of a linerlock undoubtedly stronger.
But is that really needed even in a "bushcraft-worthy knife"?
Honest question, and sure, if one can have "stronger" this is always nice, but I never felt my Tenacious or Millie (1) ever came close to a lock fail even in "harder" folder bushcraft tasks.
Do you actually hear about let's say Millie 1 users who complain that its lock was to "weak"?
I can recall watching actually rather silly Millie 1 "hard use" tests, but it still was interesting to see that its linerlock could take a brutal beating without failing.
To me personally there are definitely reasons to prefer a comp.lock over a linerlock (and vice versa!), but practically speaking the higher strength of the former is not a significant one.
Are you saying lock strength doesn’t matter to you?
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Wartstein wrote: ↑Thu May 11, 2023 9:01 am
… It is actually almost funny when people on this high level knife discussion forum certainly care about the very details when it comes to the features
they look at -. might be sort of steel, might be sharpening angle, might be handle material, might be corrosion resistance, might be slight differences in ergos...
...but then fail to accept that others are exactly the same, just on different features concerning knives...
Folks, this is actually almost an appeal:
- If "YOUR" details matter to you, just respect that OTHER details may matter in exactly the same way to other people.
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At the least: Perhaps don´t almost hunt for comments about features that are not important to you personally anyway to then pick up on those (remember, NOT relevant for you, right
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? I don´t discuss S90V vs S110V too, cause the difference does not matter to me personally)
What about lock strength?
Hey Nick, I can´t quite follow what is your point here -
(Perhaps though it´s me and my comments are not worded precisely enough)
- Of course lock strength matters to me: I want a lock that is easily strong enough for anything I might ever throw on it (or ideally several times stronger)
- Now from all I know and experienced both (Spydercos!) linerlock and comp.lock offer just that: Both easily strong enough (but, as I literally said, "if one can have stronger, this is always nice").
So I was asking Mike with his much higher level of knowledge and experience if he has different insights and data that would suggests that the higher strength of a comp.lock is a
SIGNIFICANT advantage pactically speaking and in real life experience (again, it is sure nice to have)
- Some examples / analogies
1.) You want a strong fixed blade.
Knife A has 6mm blade stock, Knife B has 7mm while otherwise being exactly the same.
Both can take way more than you´d ever throw on them, but technically speaking Knife B is even stronger (but perhaps has disadvantages on the flip side, like worse cutting geometry).
- So is the 1 mm stock of B really a SIGNIFICANT advantage - ?
2.) You want a pack that can hold up to loads up to 100 pounds.
Pack A can take 500 pounds, pack B 600 pounds (but may have disadvantages like being heavier or stiffer to carry) - both can easily take your 100 pounds
- So has pack B really a SIGNIFICANT advantage over pack B - ?
/ The old comment you linked for whatever reason is on a completely different matter:
It is about that people should RESPECT that for other folks different features might be important than for themselves.
- To me personally for example it is not important if a blade is made out of S30V or S35VN - but I totally respect if people prefer one over the other, and would never say that it is weird if one asks for the one or the other steel.
- While on the other hand for example I like lightweight folders and don´t want people to dismiss that and hint that it would be weird to care for if a knife weighs 2.5 or 4 oz (but I totally respect if weight is NOT important for another person!)
- On the topic here: I totally respect and can see how people might prefer the technically higher strength of the comp.lock! I even said that would be nice to have.
I was just asking, coming from my own experience (limited, that´s exactly why I asked Mike), if the higher strength of a comp.lock really is a huge advantage
in real life use.
Exactly BECAUSE lock strength matters to me and I am interested in Mikes (and others) experiences here.
Hope that clears it up!
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