Spyderco Amsterdam Meet 2024 Report

[bearfacedkiller]

15V Military, Rex121 Sage and the Charisma are all exciting.

[Ramonade]

The Charisma is clearly a strictly cutting tool (which is supposed to be the case for most knives anyway). It will pack the cutting geometry of a scalpel in a really thin and non-aggressive package. Ideal for cutting stuff like paper on a cutting board, schmatics and all.

[Bolster]

My concerns are this though: The Z-cut I owned broke through the centre of the Spydiehole… cutting a potato on a plastic cutting board!
Although the stock is 0.2mm thicker on the Charisma, it’s hole is significantly bigger than the Z-cut. This area WILL be a point of weakness on this knife.
I honestly think Spyderco should do away the Spydiehole on this model, or at the very least make it smaller.

Nice little slicer. I like thin blades, but this ^ was my first reaction. Not much metal around that hole.

^ Same here. I'm a prime target for a knife of this sort, very attracted to it, love the slim profile, but the hole size relative to the blade cross section gives me some concern. I don't know much about BD1N, maybe it's tough enough to handle it. With a smaller hole and a nail nick I'd be all over it.

[ladybug93]

i'm confused why people are worried about this knife breaking. it's a small blade and it's only 1mm thick. this knife clearly isn't made for applying any kind of lateral force. it's made for slicing and opening your mail, not for building a cabin in the woods.

[wrdwrght]

15V Military, Rex121 Sage and the Charisma are all exciting.

That’s where my head is.

[Mr Blonde]

This Spyderco Military 2 CPM-15V production sample was shown at the 2024 Spyderco Amsterdam Meet. See my previous post in this thread formore information on this upcoming new Spyderco folding knife. (I shot this in portrait mode, so it's optimized for phones.)

[aicolainen]

i'm confused why people are worried about this knife breaking. it's a small blade and it's only 1mm thick. this knife clearly isn't made for applying any kind of lateral force. it's made for slicing and opening your mail, not for building a cabin in the woods.

agree 100%.
If the Charisma only had a nail nick it would not be nearly as interesting.
This is one I'll have to try for sure

[Mushroom]

i'm confused why people are worried about this knife breaking. it's a small blade and it's only 1mm thick. this knife clearly isn't made for applying any kind of lateral force. it's made for slicing and opening your mail, not for building a cabin in the woods.

I can certainly understand where the concern comes from but I agree that for the intended use of the knife it shouldn’t be something to worry about.

On a completely different side of things, I actually love the way the Charisma looks with the large hole in the relatively short blade. To me, it gives the knife a whimsical sense of character that I really love! (I feel the same way about the Kiwi 4 and it is actually why I like that knife so much)

The blade stock is noticeably different but Kiwi 4, Ouroboros, and Parata all have a comparable amount of blade surrounding the Spydiehole as the Charisma and I never saw any examples of those breaking. (Not saying it never happened, I just can’t recall ever seeing it myself)

[Ngati Pom]

I’ll be watching for the post release YouTube video of a Charisma that snapped while doing some light batoning!

[Flash]

i'm confused why people are worried about this knife breaking. it's a small blade and it's only 1mm thick. this knife clearly isn't made for applying any kind of lateral force. it's made for slicing and opening your mail, not for building a cabin in the woods.

As I have already stated, my concerns are not unfounded.
I will repeat; I broke a Z-cut, which is of similar stock thickness, in the same steel, across the centre of the Spydiehole - which is of a smaller diameter than the Charisma.
I was merely cutting a potato on plastic cutting board with it at the time - then it snapped!

Although I certainly would not undergo building a log cabin with a charisma, if I do decide to buy one, there may come a time when I may need to call on it to cut something. Must I pray to the knife gods that it will not wither and fall apart upon embarking on such a monumental challenge like the z-cut did? Or on this occasion has Spyderco invested a higher level of testing to ensure it will remain unbroken?

[Sildani]

I’m in for a Charisma. I love the design and I’m the target use case. Hopefully they keep it as reasonably priced as they say, and it doesn’t get what happened to the Reinhold Rhino, which got, granted, better steel and handle scales and Taichung quality, but increased in price by a LOT.

[Coastal]

I think the concern about breaking a Charisma blade is legit. I'm not worried, personally, but I'll definitely be more careful with this blade than all others in my collection. Much more careful, like paper and soft foods only. My experience with the Z-Cut, which cost me $19, is that the blade can feel disconcertingly fragile. I dislike the Z-Cut as a kitchen knife for this reason, despite glowing reviews from people on this forum who obviously know from kitchen knives.

All that said, I can hardly wait to get my hands on a Charisma. I've broken fishing gear, firearms, skis, bicycles, tools, etc., doing exactly what the items were meant to do. Sometimes things break.

[Bolster]

i'm confused why people are worried about this knife breaking. it's a small blade and it's only 1mm thick. this knife clearly isn't made for applying any kind of lateral force. it's made for slicing and opening your mail, not for building a cabin in the woods.

So far, all my Spydies do a good job of opening the mail and none of them have been good for building a cabin in the woods. Therefore the Charisma should fit right in, performance-wise.



Love the edge shape and light weight in particular. Less than an ounce!!

[zhyla]

Charisma certainly has my attention. I’ve been carrying an Astute lately and enjoying the slim longer blade. Charisma looks insane.

The frame lock tenacious is certainly interesting as well. Likely not something I would purchase (my existing Tenacious is working fine) but I can see it being desirable to a lot of people.

[4077th]

The "Charisma" is made in Golden. Eric has been working on refining the design for 3 years anyway.

sal

It's like a Jess Horn lightweight that's running illegal jet fuel. What about teeth? This model with fangs would be out of the ballbark.

[Mushroom]

The "Charisma" is made in Golden. Eric has been working on refining the design for 3 years anyway.

sal

It's like a Jess Horn lightweight that's running illegal jet fuel. What about teeth? This model with fangs would be out of the ballbark.

The public patents for this knife were shared on here in the past and there was a serrated version shown.

[Notsurewhy]

I'll reserve judgement until I've had one in hand, but 1mm stock on the charisma might be too thin for me. Never thought I'd say that about a production knife. The z-cut blade is already very flexible and at 1.3mm it's 30% thicker than the charisma.

[Wartstein]

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The public patents for this knife were shared on here in the past and there was a serrated version shown.

Perhaps no surprise that I´d like that!!

[aicolainen]

I'll reserve judgement until I've had one in hand, but 1mm stock on the charisma might be too thin for me. Never thought I'd say that about a production knife. The z-cut blade is already very flexible and at 1.3mm it's 30% thicker than the charisma.

Reserving judgement is probably the way to approach this. I’m very happy to see Spyderco chase performance like this. Maybe they went too far, it’s something of a bold move for sure, but I prefer it over playing it safe. There’s no shortage on overbuilt knives, so however it holds up it’s a nice change of pace.

I do own a z-cut, a knife I needed less than a week to put a very noticeable dent in, so I see where the skeptics are coming from, but I will judge the Charisma on its own merits.

[RamZar]

The upcoming Catcherman LC200N Sprint Run also has a very thin blade of 0.07" (1.8mm).