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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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Image I like this grip for tip control. Make use of that great belly/chisel tip. Good hold for skinning and the thumb in the hole adds to the control and indexing. A Millie style handle with this blade would be amazing in my book.
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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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Mine is developing pretty bad lock stick to the point where i almost need two hands to close it when it’s opened with more force. Any suggestions? I’ve opened it a lot of times, made sure lock face was clean, graphite and sharpie only lasts so long…
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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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No lock stick on mine. I took off the clip and it feels so much better in the hand. May need a custom sheath that clips on to pocket.
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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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Heard from Mr. Lynch he got one and will be working on a clip for it that should be ready next month!
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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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Wow, I have been asking him for years!
MightyQ wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:07 am
Heard from Mr. Lynch he got one and will be working on a clip for it that should be ready next month!
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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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MightyQ wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:07 am
Heard from Mr. Lynch he got one and will be working on a clip for it that should be ready next month!
Great news. Love his stuff
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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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I took the scales off and added two thin washers per side under the pivot hardware and the knife feels pretty good. I think this will make the knife carry better as an EDC with the thinner profile. I will try to get some replacement pivot hardware so I can reduce the width and not have to use washers if I like it.


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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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Fireman wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:10 am
No lock stick on mine. I took off the clip and it feels so much better in the hand. May need a custom sheath that clips on to pocket.
https://i.imgur.com/dJcjivm.mp4

Here’s a video of me opening mine 3 times. The third one is the worst. It’s REALLY bad
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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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capt.carl wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:54 am
Fireman wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:10 am
No lock stick on mine. I took off the clip and it feels so much better in the hand. May need a custom sheath that clips on to pocket.
https://i.imgur.com/dJcjivm.mp4

Here’s a video of me opening mine 3 times. The third one is the worst. It’s REALLY bad
Sorry you are having an issue. There are a few fixes you can find on YouTube
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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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capt.carl wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:54 am
Fireman wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:10 am
No lock stick on mine. I took off the clip and it feels so much better in the hand. May need a custom sheath that clips on to pocket.
https://i.imgur.com/dJcjivm.mp4

Here’s a video of me opening mine 3 times. The third one is the worst. It’s REALLY bad
I reckon the harder you open the blade (like with a high-energy flick), the deeper the lockbar gets invited into the cutaway on the blade’s tang. The resulting lock-stick, which is early galling (of the softer titanium), will lead, eventually, to a lockup approaching the opposite scale. My Sage2 is at about 95% of the way there.

Have you lubricated the lockface?
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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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Does anyone have any tips for centering the blade? I have been unsuccessful so far, since the scales need to be removed to access the frame screws, and the pivot cannot be tightened without the scales in place.
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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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wrdwrght wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:41 am
capt.carl wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:54 am
Fireman wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:10 am
No lock stick on mine. I took off the clip and it feels so much better in the hand. May need a custom sheath that clips on to pocket.
https://i.imgur.com/dJcjivm.mp4

Here’s a video of me opening mine 3 times. The third one is the worst. It’s REALLY bad
I reckon the harder you open the blade (like with a high-energy flick), the deeper the lockbar gets invited into the cutaway on the blade’s tang. The resulting lock-stick, which is early galling (of the softer titanium), will lead, eventually, to a lockup approaching the opposite scale. My Sage2 is at about 95% of the way there.

Have you lubricated the lockface?
That makes sense. However it sticks with even a slow roll, and it should be able to handle a thumb flick (no wrist) without sticking that bad.
I thought lube on the lock face was a bad thing for lock stick? Not sure, but i try to keep it clean.
Unfortunately i may have to send this one back to spyderco to see if they can do something about it.
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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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I am digging how much better it carry’s now being thinner. The clip does not get in the way like before. I had to find some shorter screws but it’s working great in its slimmer guise.

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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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capt.carl wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:45 pm
wrdwrght wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:41 am
capt.carl wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:54 am
Fireman wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:10 am
No lock stick on mine. I took off the clip and it feels so much better in the hand. May need a custom sheath that clips on to pocket.
https://i.imgur.com/dJcjivm.mp4

Here’s a video of me opening mine 3 times. The third one is the worst. It’s REALLY bad
I reckon the harder you open the blade (like with a high-energy flick), the deeper the lockbar gets invited into the cutaway on the blade’s tang. The resulting lock-stick, which is early galling (of the softer titanium), will lead, eventually, to a lockup approaching the opposite scale. My Sage2 is at about 95% of the way there.

Have you lubricated the lockface?
That makes sense. However it sticks with even a slow roll, and it should be able to handle a thumb flick (no wrist) without sticking that bad.
I thought lube on the lock face was a bad thing for lock stick? Not sure, but i try to keep it clean.
Unfortunately i may have to send this one back to spyderco to see if they can do something about it.
I would return that one to your dealer and exchange it for one without lock stick. You deserve to be satisfied with this knife.

I am totally loving mine, that's for sure, good luck!
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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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Kiteman72 wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:26 pm
capt.carl wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:45 pm
wrdwrght wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:41 am
capt.carl wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:54 am

https://i.imgur.com/dJcjivm.mp4

Here’s a video of me opening mine 3 times. The third one is the worst. It’s REALLY bad
I reckon the harder you open the blade (like with a high-energy flick), the deeper the lockbar gets invited into the cutaway on the blade’s tang. The resulting lock-stick, which is early galling (of the softer titanium), will lead, eventually, to a lockup approaching the opposite scale. My Sage2 is at about 95% of the way there.

Have you lubricated the lockface?
That makes sense. However it sticks with even a slow roll, and it should be able to handle a thumb flick (no wrist) without sticking that bad.
I thought lube on the lock face was a bad thing for lock stick? Not sure, but i try to keep it clean.
Unfortunately i may have to send this one back to spyderco to see if they can do something about it.
I would return that one to your dealer and exchange it for one without lock stick. You deserve to be satisfied with this knife.

I am totally loving mine, that's for sure, good luck!
I think I’ll send it in. I got it from spyderco factory store.
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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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How flush do the cf scales line up with the liners on the butt of the handle for anyone else? The show scale on mine is flush but lock scale protrudes past the liner a bit. Nothing major but have had nothing but flush lineups on the rest of my Taichung models. Just curious
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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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Mine is good but I am running without the scales now. The scales are not structural it seems but they hold in the pin but the washers I used hold that in place now. My example has show. To be as perfect as one could hope. It seems that only the ones with minor hiccups get all the press because satisfied customers are like church mice 🐁 😂😂
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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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Fireman wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:13 pm
I am digging how much better it carry’s now being thinner. The clip does not get in the way like before. I had to find some shorter screws but it’s working great in its slimmer guise.

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Oh god no! The horror! I don’t think I’ll ever be able to un-see this. I mean, if you are happy, great but yikes. Maybe this knife just isn’t for you if the thickness bugs you.

Side note: if you want to ditch the washers you could always mod the pivot barrel to be shorter.
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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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I’m very impressed with the quality and ergonomics. The matching hat is nice too. I’m not sure if I will carry this yet but it’s an outstanding piece.
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Re: Subvert Sprint CF/20CV!

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capt.carl wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:47 pm
Kiteman72 wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 2:26 pm
capt.carl wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 12:45 pm
wrdwrght wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:41 am

I reckon the harder you open the blade (like with a high-energy flick), the deeper the lockbar gets invited into the cutaway on the blade’s tang. The resulting lock-stick, which is early galling (of the softer titanium), will lead, eventually, to a lockup approaching the opposite scale. My Sage2 is at about 95% of the way there.

Have you lubricated the lockface?
That makes sense. However it sticks with even a slow roll, and it should be able to handle a thumb flick (no wrist) without sticking that bad.
I thought lube on the lock face was a bad thing for lock stick? Not sure, but i try to keep it clean.
Unfortunately i may have to send this one back to spyderco to see if they can do something about it.
I would return that one to your dealer and exchange it for one without lock stick. You deserve to be satisfied with this knife.

I am totally loving mine, that's for sure, good luck!
I think I’ll send it in. I got it from spyderco factory store.
As an update, as ive been opening and closing it quite a lot it has been breaking in and the lock stick is a lot better now. I am glad i kept going with the break in. Hopefully the bad stick continues to stay away. This is a pretty much perfect knife other than that experience
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