Was the Nirvana just too expensive?

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I handled one and it had lock stick so bad that I couldn’t unlock it with both thumbs. I asked to see another and it was almost as bad. I had zero interest after that.
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Bugatti is cool car not everyone can own, $700.00 Knife is cheap.😇
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The Nirvana was by no means too expensive, in fact most prospective buyers didn't have enough money for it or didn't want to spend that much money on a Spydie. I didn't buy one myself either.
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Not my cuppa, cost not least.
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akapennypincher wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:52 am
Bugatti is cool car not everyone can own, $700.00 Knife is cheap.😇
:rofl

When you compare a $1,700,000 car to a $700 knife, of course the knife seems inexpensive. Thats not exactly a rational comparison.


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I don’t think the Nirvana was too expensive. I believe there were other factors beyond just price and sales numbers that lead to it being discontinued. Judging by what some people are willing to pay on the secondary market for one of these knives, I think the only way it could be too expensive is by exceeding the cost of an actual Peter Rassenti custom.

The Paysan is even more expensive than the Nirvana was but that doesn’t seem to stay in stock anywhere for long when it does show up. There are obviously people with the means and desire to pay that much money for a knife.
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The biggest knock against it was not being full flat grind.
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How much is a custom from Peter these days?
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GarageBoy wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:01 pm
How much is a custom from Peter these days?

A custom Nirvana goes for about $2K.

https://www.arizonacustomknives.com/kni ... nti-peter/
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Too good to be true, it probably is. I wouldn't even click that link at such a ridiculous price.
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Yeah, that site was discussed in the counterfeit section. I suggest justokfolderknife.com as better alternative. Kidding on the last part.
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skeeg11 wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:25 pm
kennethsime wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:20 pm
skeeg11 wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:54 pm
Bemo wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:58 pm
The 0470 is the only ZT I have. And to keep this on track, when I saw the pic of the Nirvana I saw the resemblence as well. I have more confidence in the heat treat and actions from Spyderco. Were this or the Paisan less expensive I'd be seriously tempted.
If the Nirvana's pedigree is of interest, check out the Lochsa.
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I could be wrong, but I believe he was one of the first if not the first to do a monoblock titanium RIL.
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I think Jim O’Young’s SpeedTech Synergy was the first integral frame folder and it won the Most Innovative American Design at the 1999 BLADE Show. WE Knife currently makes several versions and sizes of his updated Synergy2 integral titanium frame lock folder.
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dsvirsky wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 3:50 pm
skeeg11 wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:25 pm
kennethsime wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 11:20 pm
skeeg11 wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:54 pm


If the Nirvana's pedigree is of interest, check out the Lochsa.
Wow, that is a gorgeous knife.
I could be wrong, but I believe he was one of the first if not the first to do a monoblock titanium RIL.
Correct. Scott Cook was the first custom knifemaker to offer an integral, titanium, frame lock folder. Table price, when I bought mine in 2003(?), was $495, $505 for the reverse finish (I got the reverse finish).
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Mushroom wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:18 pm
akapennypincher wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:52 am
Bugatti is cool car not everyone can own, $700.00 Knife is cheap.😇
:rofl

When you compare a $1,700,000 car to a $700 knife, of course the knife seems inexpensive. Thats not exactly a rational comparison.


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I don’t think the Nirvana was too expensive. I believe there were other factors beyond just price and sales numbers that lead to it being discontinued. Judging by what some people are willing to pay on the secondary market for one of these knives, I think the only way it could be too expensive is by exceeding the cost of an actual Peter Rassenti custom.

The Paysan is even more expensive than the Nirvana was but that doesn’t seem to stay in stock anywhere for long when it does show up. There are obviously people with the means and desire to pay that much money for a knife.


The Bugatti I listed over was 3.5 Million, the knife pocket change at $700.00.

I Smoke Cigars some are pricy. What you pleasure?

Love going to custom knife show, but I go to look at functional art.🥳
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kennethsime wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:30 pm
Sharp Guy wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:34 pm
kennethsime wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:57 pm
ZT has many examples in the $200-300 range.
Take a look at the ZT 0470. Earlier in this thread I mentioned I was (once again) considering a small Shiro (Neon NL). I still am but then I take out my ZT 0470 and wonder why. Maybe I got a good one but the action on my 0470 is exactly how I imagine a Shiro. I really like the blade shape and handle too
It looks like a killer knife, but I think the 0450 looks a little closer to my style. I’ve handled a few ZTs over the years, but most just don’t speak to me. Hmm… good price points at ZT, though.
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skeeg11 wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:08 pm

Mine is #11 and never leaves the house.
Mine is covered in snail trails and was part of my regular carry rotation for quite some time. It still makes it into the pocket of my jeans from time to time. Too heavy, unfortunately, for sweatpants.
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dsvirsky wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:57 pm
skeeg11 wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:08 pm

Mine is #11 and never leaves the house.
Mine is covered in snail trails and was part of my regular carry rotation for quite some time. It still makes it into the pocket of my jeans from time to time. Too heavy, unfortunately, for sweatpants.
All of my knives are users "EXCEPT" for this one. Some sort of mental block I suppose. I guess that in the end, I am content for it to be consigned to the status of knife art
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akapennypincher wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:11 pm

The Bugatti I listed over was 3.5 Million, the knife pocket change at $700.00.

I Smoke Cigars some are pricy. What you pleasure?

Love going to custom knife show, but I go to look at functional art.🥳
Cost is relative. A $700 pocket knife is not “cheap” in the same way a 3.5 million dollar car is not “cheap.”

It goes without saying that anyone who can afford a 3.5 million dollar car, can easily afford a $700 knife. I don’t understand the point of comparing the two things.

You like cigars. How often do you smoke “cheap” $700 cigars? Because $700 for a cigar is pocket change if you compare it to the cost of a Bugatti. :thinking

The Nirvana was an expensive knife but there were still buyers for it. For that reason, I don’t think it was “too expensive.” In relation to the cost of other pocket knives though, it is expensive.
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Mushroom wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:22 pm
akapennypincher wrote:
Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:11 pm

The Bugatti I listed over was 3.5 Million, the knife pocket change at $700.00.

I Smoke Cigars some are pricy. What you pleasure?

Love going to custom knife show, but I go to look at functional art.🥳
Cost is relative. A $700 pocket knife is not “cheap” in the same way a 3.5 million dollar car is not “cheap.”

It goes without saying that anyone who can afford a 3.5 million dollar car, can easily afford a $700 knife. I don’t understand the point of comparing the two things.

You like cigars. How often do you smoke “cheap” $700 cigars? Because $700 for a cigar is pocket change if you compare it to the cost of a Bugatti. :thinking

The Nirvana was an expensive knife but there were still buyers for it. For that reason, I don’t think it was “too expensive.” In relation to the cost of other pocket knives though, it is expensive.

Most people who really want $700.00 can figure out how to get, the 3.5 Million Buck care is noyy to so easy.

Cigar do not have Cody Cody a fortune to be good, if the BAND to flash for asshat appeal is not important.
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