St. Nicks 4V Military 1

[5-by-5]

As long as it's a Military 1. Gag! I hate even having to put a 1 after Military.

Agree so don’t. There’s the Military which Millie also notates and then there’s the lesser comp lock one that needs the 2 behind it.

The official name of the knife is Military. I guarantee it won't say Military 1 on the box. So not sure why the need to call it the Military 1. The Military 2 will be the one that denotes a change

Military - Is the original with liner lock
Military 2 - Is the new version with comp lock

What appears on the box is not how a model is addressed in forums. The Stretch is called the Stretch 1. Because people are a little solipsistic they tend to talk in what they know and have experienced.

[5-by-5]

As long as it's a Military 1. Gag! I hate even having to put a 1 after Military.

Agree so don’t. There’s the Military which Millie also notates and then there’s the lesser comp lock one that needs the 2 behind it.

LOL'd Millie for life! I commented several times that they should have named it PM XL and leave the Military alone. Crickets......
I felt Shadow banned for it.

I will call it the PM2 XL now. Lock changes alters the soul of the knife.

Exactly what I said. Still crickets.

[kerrcobra]

Agree so don’t. There’s the Military which Millie also notates and then there’s the lesser comp lock one that needs the 2 behind it.

LOL'd Millie for life! I commented several times that they should have named it PM XL and leave the Military alone. Crickets......
I felt Shadow banned for it.

I will call it the PM2 XL now. Lock changes alters the soul of the knife.

Exactly what I said. Still crickets.

Doesn't Spyderco have a specific model - the Sage - that they used specifically to test out different locks? They're all named Sage 1-5 or whatever. FWIW, I thought they should've named it the PM 4, but ultimately I don't really care what it's called.

[Sharp Guy]

What appears on the box is not how a model is addressed in forums. The Stretch is called the Stretch 1. Because people are a little solipsistic they tend to talk in what they know and have experienced.

I've been around long enough to understand that. I knew exactly what vivi meant when I saw the thread. My point is that you're perfectly safe referring to it as the Millie. No need to add a 1

[Mushroom]

As long as it's a Military 1. Gag! I hate even having to put a 1 after Military.

Agree so don’t. There’s the Military which Millie also notates and then there’s the lesser comp lock one that needs the 2 behind it.

The official name of the knife is Military. I guarantee it won't say Military 1 on the box. So not sure why the need to call it the Military 1. The Military 2 will be the one that denotes a change

Military - Is the original with liner lock
Military 2 - Is the new version with comp lock

The official name of the knife is actually “Military Model.” Which is what would be on the box. Your point stands though that it is rarely ever referred to as the “Military Model” and the name “Military” on its own has basically been standardized.

[prndltech]

[vivi]

Well it's certainly going to be interesting when the Millie 2 releases, haha.

[Mushroom]

The “Military 2” is much more difficult. People have their own perceptions of it and will call it what they want. Whether that’s “PM4 XL” or “Millie 2” I do think there should be some way to nominally differentiate it from the original Military Model.

[TkoK83Spy]

Someone will just call it a PM2 XL and start WWIII!

[Cl1ff]

LOL'd Millie for life! I commented several times that they should have named it PM XL and leave the Military alone. Crickets......
I felt Shadow banned for it.

I will call it the PM2 XL now. Lock changes alters the soul of the knife.

Exactly what I said. Still crickets.

Doesn't Spyderco have a specific model - the Sage - that they used specifically to test out different locks? They're all named Sage 1-5 or whatever. FWIW, I thought they should've named it the PM 4, but ultimately I don't really care what it's called.

[Mrj]

Someone will just call it a PM2 XL and start WWIII!

[prndltech]

Well it's certainly going to be interesting when the Millie 2 releases, haha.

Bro I will have a bowl of popcorn in my lap scrolling through threads… it’s already almost better than cable tv (I don’t have cable so…)

I don’t really have the money for one of these, but I might make it happen.
I’m down to one military, the new CQI, all black everything, including the liner… which I dig.
I dropped it twice today and busted the tip

[vivi]

funny thing is it feels like there's twice as many people arguing about the name of the new millie than there are people posting any Military in the What's In Your Pocket thread. Never realized we had so many die-hard Millie fans here

[prndltech]

funny thing is it feels like there's twice as many people arguing about the name of the new millie than there are people posting any Military in the What's In Your Pocket thread. Never realized we had so many die-hard Millie fans here

I’ll buy one and I don’t care what it is or what it’s called. also, I fixed that for ya and added mine from this a.m.

Been staying off forums to save money!

[Evil D]

funny thing is it feels like there's twice as many people arguing about the name of the new millie than there are people posting any Military in the What's In Your Pocket thread. Never realized we had so many die-hard Millie fans here

The knife community is notorious for wanting what they can't have. The Military had all but fallen into obscurity and the liner lock was one of the most hated on locks until they announced a compression lock Military 2, then the loyalists come out of hiding (and I'm one of them).

The problem is all the people who love the current Military likely already own several of them and aren't buying enough to keep it afloat, so there is a business need for change. So then we're in this impossible situation where it's "don't change/discontinue this because I love it, but I already own it so I'm not buying more of it" and so what can a company do? This is a classic case of building something so good that you put yourself out of business because your product never needs replaced so you eventually run out of customers. I think the Military needed to be included in far more steel sprints in the past few years and at the very least should have gotten the 4 way clip option on the last CQI change. Those two things alone could have kept it far more relevant. Even though I'm one of those who dislikes all the unused clip holes, it's just an industry standard these days. Even the stainless Police has 4 way clip and it's the quintessential grandfather of the Spyderco catalog.

[vivi]

I'm with you on the four way clip. I had a tip up bg42/cf Military back around 2010 and it carried so much better RFP with the tip up clip. I could go either way with the lock.

I've always loved the original Military since I first handled one, but I never felt it was perfect. There were small things about it I always wanted to change, like the clip, the choil, etc.

But those changes aren't so drastic to make the original completely obsolete to me, so I'm definitely getting at least one in 4V. Just like the Police 4 is the best version in my eyes, but I still carry my Police 3 once in a while.

[thewoodpecker]

Regardless of the name I am excited about this one, and I hope we get a CruWear and/or CruCarta in a Mil 1/2.

[vivi]

some old single liner millies are on ACK for a reasonable price. One of them is under 200.

[abbazaba]

funny thing is it feels like there's twice as many people arguing about the name of the new millie than there are people posting any Military in the What's In Your Pocket thread. Never realized we had so many die-hard Millie fans here

The knife community is notorious for wanting what they can't have. The Military had all but fallen into obscurity and the liner lock was one of the most hated on locks until they announced a compression lock Military 2, then the loyalists come out of hiding (and I'm one of them).

The problem is all the people who love the current Military likely already own several of them and aren't buying enough to keep it afloat, so there is a business need for change. So then we're in this impossible situation where it's "don't change/discontinue this because I love it, but I already own it so I'm not buying more of it" and so what can a company do? This is a classic case of building something so good that you put yourself out of business because your product never needs replaced so you eventually run out of customers. I think the Military needed to be included in far more steel sprints in the past few years and at the very least should have gotten the 4 way clip option on the last CQI change. Those two things alone could have kept it far more relevant. Even though I'm one of those who dislikes all the unused clip holes, it's just an industry standard these days. Even the stainless Police has 4 way clip and it's the quintessential grandfather of the Spyderco catalog.

Well said!

[Bradley]

I'm in on this one for sure. Ready for some pictures as well.