Dedicated box cutter knife?

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270ultimate wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:53 pm
Since way back in my restaurant management days, my dedicated box cutter has been one of those cheap, plastic handled steak knives.

Granted, I end up doing a lot more cardboard sawing than cutting, but those things go forever without getting too dull to function fairly well.
I had a paring knife that someone was throwing away. It was crap steel, but thin enough that it ate cardboard even after it was dull.

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Fri Jul 29, 2022 12:18 pm
I have one. It’s a s110v native, g10 with liners, that was reground to .010” BTE

All I do with it is cut up cardboard and stuff to put in the recycling bin at the house
I would love to get something reground like that, but every time someone offers this service, they get swamped and close the books
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I find it difficult to envision Spyderco designing a product specifically to facilitate someone else’s cutting tools. Especially when considering how proud they are of their own cutting tools. (As they rightfully should be)

I just don’t think it’s their market because of how flooded it is with low end options. It would also be difficult for them to compete at a high end level because it’s such a tiny market. Spyderco is not one of these boutique knife makers that can experiment with small mid-tech runs of certain knives. They have to be very decisive regarding what they produce.
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The longer the blade is, the more leverage there is available to break it. The thinner the blade, the less leverage is needed to break it. Long, thin blade? Better make it out of something that bends instead of breaking. Edge retention? What's that?

Buy a Cold Steel Tuff Lite and a Harbor Freight belt sander, then learn to grind your own.
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yablanowitz wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:27 pm
The longer the blade is, the more leverage there is available to break it. The thinner the blade, the less leverage is needed to break it. Long, thin blade? Better make it out of something that bends instead of breaking. Edge retention? What's that?

Buy a Cold Steel Tuff Lite and a Harbor Freight belt sander, then learn to grind your own.
This is the exact model I thought about when I first read this thread.

Also, Dragonfly K390 Wharncliffe.
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Chaves CHUB and Chaves CHUB flipper. Very well made.
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For a box cutter it’s hard to beat the bimetal replacement blades sold by Lenox and at least one other firm. They have a very hard HSS edge laser welded to a softer steel back, they fit any standard utility knife handle, and can be bent in a U without shattering (though the edge will crack in several places).
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I generally use the Milwaukee folding utility knife for cutting up boxes, but I have a Stanley folding utility knife that has a replaceable thin blade that is 2 1/2 X 1/2”. Only about 2” extends out from the 4.25” handle, but it is a great knife for cutting mat board, cardboard, and similar stuff. Mine has a shiny steel handle, but the current model (10-049) has an epoxy finish on the handle. I like my Spyderco knives too much to use them on cardboard.
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There are two past Spyderco models I could fully recommend for box cutting. One of them is an older fixed blade model with a short blade that was called the SPOT model. The SPOT model would be absolutely perfect for that job.

Another much overlooked model for that chore would be the Dodo model. I've done some box cutting with my blue handled, PE Dodo that I've had since 2003 ( the year it came out). The Dodo is like cutting cardboard like a laser.

The SPOT and Dodo are my two recommendations.
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skeeg11 wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 9:02 am
VooDooChild wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 8:56 am
It still wont be better than a box cutter though.
Kinda sad but probably true. :winking-tongue

Very true. I break down A LOT of cardboard for recycling and box cutters work 10 time better than any Spyderco I have tried. The laser sharp thin blades (especially good blades like Stanley Carbide or Tajima V-REX II) and the way you can choke up on the knife and get a good angle really allow you to blast through cardboard in a way that no Spyderco I have tried can do.
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Bill1170 wrote:
Fri Jul 29, 2022 11:10 pm
For a box cutter it’s hard to beat the bimetal replacement blades sold by Lenox and at least one other firm. They have a very hard HSS edge laser welded to a softer steel back, they fit any standard utility knife handle, and can be bent in a U without shattering (though the edge will crack in several places).

I use Tajima V-REX II blades - they touch up nicely on spyderco medium and fine stones (screaming sharp with my sloppy quick touch ups) - I want that performance in a longer more rigid format. Those Cold Steel Click n Cut is the closest so far - nice 1.5mm thick blade. I started this thread because it seems that no one has made a non disposable knife blade in that thickness, and I was curious if there was a reason (besides the really real possibility of breaking it)
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I think 1mm would be a better performance-to-durability compromise. You could experiment with a Victorinox paring knife, sold in 3” and 4” blade lengths. The handle is too slim for hard work, but can be built up by tape wrapping to provide better purchase.
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steelcity16 wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:48 am
I break down A LOT of cardboard for recycling and box cutters work 10 time better than any Spyderco I have tried. The laser sharp thin blades (especially good blades like Stanley Carbide or Tajima V-REX II) and the way you can choke up on the knife and get a good angle really allow you to blast through cardboard in a way that no Spyderco I have tried can do.

Very true. Geometry über alles.

Now tell me about these Tajima V-REX blades...what are they made of?
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If I had a choice out of a box cutter and a wharncliffe SE Delica.

It’s the Spyderco every time. This is my go to box shredder that can handle all the boxes.

Had to cut the plastic off some mining gear a while back and it outlasted several box cutters used by others. ( several 40” flat rack containers )

Really I would prefer a knife to a box cutter any day.
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Bolster wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 4:59 pm
steelcity16 wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:48 am
I break down A LOT of cardboard for recycling and box cutters work 10 time better than any Spyderco I have tried. The laser sharp thin blades (especially good blades like Stanley Carbide or Tajima V-REX II) and the way you can choke up on the knife and get a good angle really allow you to blast through cardboard in a way that no Spyderco I have tried can do.

Very true. Geometry über alles.

Now tell me about these Tajima V-REX blades...what are they made of?
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I know Civivi offers a box cutter, including blades with a Damascus finish. A thin blade such as that found on a Dragonfly combined with a full size grip would be a great little knife!
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Wharnie Delica or Dragonfly would be my choice. Actually the little Wharncliffe Manbug works pretty well too
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I tried to use my wharncliffe endela for it but I can't do straight edge no belly. I found the Kizer Mini October to be excellent for it. Except the 154CM on it. I will denitely buy one of Spyderco gives me a pokey sheepsfoot in hollow grind, or Chaparral-thin blade.
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Every knife is a box cutter. That’s why they don’t make on. I mean really. Why use box cutter when you have a way better blade in your pocket at all times. JS I use my para 3 every single day for all kinds of things and even if it’s dulls a little. It still cuts up/open boxes.
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GarageBoy wrote:
Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:43 pm
Sk120
http://zknives.com/knives/steels/sk120.shtml
Interesting, thanks. I don't know steel composition well enough to make sense of this steel. Reasonably high carbon, but adds small amounts of nickel, copper, silicone, and chromium...I don't understand it. Bottom of page, a note that says "used to be called SK2." Which, if memory serves, has been a very common steel used for replaceable ute blades for a long time.
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I think some people dont realise the **** that some box cutters go through, and why the cheap and replaceable blade design works so well.

If you are breaking down empty boxes then sure a dedicated knife seems great. If you are working in a warehouse or grocery store, and cutting boxes packed to the gills with metal cans and glass jars your tip goes away quick. Same with cutting carpet on concrete, doing drywall all day, and all sorts of other stuff.

I like having a dedicated pocket knife on me for a lot of reasons, but I also like having cheap box cutters.
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