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Montbell Pirka

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Anyone have access to the spyderwiki? I notice the super rare Montbell Pirka isn't in it. Would be a shame to not have that little back alley footnote in the records.

Super short story. There was a sporting goods supplier called Montbell who specialized in outdoor goods. Many from Japan. . Roughly the size of the Delica with unique blade grind, and used the generation 1 frn handles.

Correction an anciet Paul post reminded me: "Interesting story here. These knives were made by Spyderco, exclusively for a Japanese chain named Mont-Bell, which happens to have stores in the USA as well. They were not suppose to be sold in the US, but apparently Mont-Bell made a mistake and some were sent here, and sold."

In 2006, someone mentioned it on this Forum.

Spyderco put a stop to the selling of it.

Very few floating about in the wild.
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Good to see you back, Zen. Interesting story on the Mont-Bell. I imagine Kyle will likely chime in. I think he's still one of the primary folks involved with keeping spyderwiki updated.

Btw, do you still have that marvelous collection of Ronins? I always enjoyed seeing pictures of those.

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SpyderNut wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:04 pm
Good to see you back, Zen. Interesting story on the Mont-Bell. I imagine Kyle will likely chime in. I think he's still one of the primary folks involved with keeping spyderwiki updated.

Btw, do you still have that marvelous collection of Ronins? I always enjoyed seeing pictures of those.

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Good to see you again Zen! And for those who've never seen one, here's a photo of the Pirka...

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...It combined the handle of the FRN Pro-Grip with a blade shape most similar to the C26 Snap-It.
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The Deacon wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 6:16 am
...And for those who've never seen one, here's a photo of the Pirka...
...It combined the handle of the FRN Pro-Grip with a blade shape most similar to the C26 Snap-It.

Wow, neat. Thanks for showing. It looks like a proto Caly.

For those who don't ultralight backpack, Mont-Bell is a very desirable (and usually expensive) brand of outdoor gear. I don't own much of it, because it's too fancy for a dirt clod such as myself! But high quality and light weight.
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I would pick up a reprised version in FFG and modern steel.

Maybe that’s an Urban, though?
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It looks a lot like a smaller spyderco flatiron.
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Zive wrote:
Sun Feb 06, 2022 9:34 pm
I would pick up a reprised version in FFG and modern steel.

Maybe that’s an Urban, though?

I'm not sure what would it bring to the table that the Delica 4 and Salt 2 do not offer. I have to wonder how many folks would still want a knife with an integral FRN clip. Not to mention the Kraton insert in the handle, since that material has proven itself prone to disintegrate after a few years of use.
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It does have an attractive grind, but the Deacon is right in that the Delica, which seems just a bit longer and not as much booty, does everything this one does, and with the 4 way reversible clip, more.

I had two of this rare bird. One of those things that just isn't exciting to many because of "plastic".
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Fantastic little knife. It comes up here every few years and I always like the look of it a lot.

I wonder if the LeafJumper will essentially be its successor?
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It looks hollow ground. Is it? I've never seen one of these. I could see a place for this in the lineup, unless the Delica with the hollow grind that is forthcoming will take its place. In any case, that is a good looking knife. If I had a choice, I'd make the hollow grind a little higher.
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Re: Montbell Pirka

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The Deacon wrote:
Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:42 pm

I'm not sure what would it bring to the table that the Delica 4 and Salt 2 do not offer. I have to wonder how many folks would still want a knife with an integral FRN clip. Not to mention the Kraton insert in the handle, since that material has proven itself prone to disintegrate after a few years of use.
I completely agree that a re-release in the original configuration would be a slow mover.

The blade shape (specifically the pronounced belly) is what makes it stand out to me. I know there’s a lot of competition in this size of folder from Spyderco’s current product line, but if this were brought back in volcano FRN with a wire clip I would pick one up even though I own several Delicas and a Salt 2.

I’m not about to make a “no I won’t shut up” thread demanding one, but I would put my money down if it became available again in VG-10 or better.
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SpyderNut wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:04 pm
Good to see you back, Zen. Interesting story on the Mont-Bell. I imagine Kyle will likely chime in. I think he's still one of the primary folks involved with keeping spyderwiki updated.
I was unfamiliar with this knife until Rich (Candyman) posted it on a Facebook group the other day. I haven't been to involved in maintaining the Spydiewiki lately, but certainly can add an entry for this.

Seeing as how it doesn't have a SKU, any suggestions for how it should be organized/categorized?
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jabba359 wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:41 am
SpyderNut wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:04 pm
I haven't been to involved in maintaining the Spydiewiki lately, but certainly can add an entry for this.

Seeing as how it doesn't have a SKU, any suggestions for how it should be organized/categorized?
Kyle the entry for the Pirka is already done ...
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Peter1960 wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:06 pm
jabba359 wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:41 am
I haven't been to involved in maintaining the Spydiewiki lately, but certainly can add an entry for this.

Seeing as how it doesn't have a SKU, any suggestions for how it should be organized/categorized?
Kyle the entry for the Pirka is already done ...
Ah, I found it. I didn't see it indexed anywhere, but it shows up in the search function: https://www.spydiewiki.com/index.php?ti ... irka_Knife
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You find it in „Spyderco other products and merchandise“.
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jabba359 wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:41 am
SpyderNut wrote:
Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:04 pm
Good to see you back, Zen. Interesting story on the Mont-Bell. I imagine Kyle will likely chime in. I think he's still one of the primary folks involved with keeping spyderwiki updated.
I was unfamiliar with this knife until Rich (Candyman) posted it on a Facebook group the other day. I haven't been to involved in maintaining the Spydiewiki lately, but certainly can add an entry for this.

Seeing as how it doesn't have a SKU, any suggestions for how it should be organized/categorized?
Glad to hear you and Peter were able to get this sorted. Always cool to find a piece of Spyderco history. 👍
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It's been indexed on this page: https://www.spydiewiki.com/index.php?ti ... erchandise , which appears to be a collection page for items that don't fit in the other established categories.
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Mr Blonde wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:15 am
It's been indexed on this page: https://www.spydiewiki.com/index.php?ti ... erchandise , which appears to be a collection page for items that don't fit in the other established categories.
I didn't look there, as I recalled it being a page of non-knife items. Guess the Pirka snuck in there as the only knife. :winking-tongue
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jabba359 wrote:
Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:41 am
Seeing as how it doesn't have a SKU, any suggestions for how it should be organized/categorized?

One possibility would be to have a category for Japanese Domestic Market models. Granted, most of the entries would just be JDM variants of regular models but, IIRC, the Pirka is not the only "JDM exclusive" model.
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