Who's mad??? You're just wrong in the aspect that you just DON'T understand knife aficionados. I know sal does as he even touched on it in some yt video I watched several years back.Wartstein wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 12:13 amSlash wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 10:45 pmDon't put a question in the title and NOT expect others to give you their reasons and opinions and try to dismiss them and think your correct.Wartstein wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 11:16 amEvil D wrote:
I´ll give it one last try, since I find it almost a bit sad how people almost deliberately seem to misunderstand what´s the point here:
That (highlighted) question actually is a bit weird in the context of this thread: Sounds like as if the purpose here would be to tell people "you are mad to care for perfect centering" or even "I am annoyed by your preference for perfect centering and want you to stop that".
When in fact is has been made clear several times and literally, that their is full respect and understanding for those who care for that level of symmetry.
The highligthed question is not even logical: If one asked: "Why do so many people want a red car", he is not concerned with the PEOPLE who want a red car and has no issues with them wanting a red car, but is only interested in their reasoning.
/ Look at the pic below: Two (for me) perfect knives. The Manix is perfectly centered, the Endura is not.
Now I´d ask everyone to be honest with themselves:
- Imagine, no one would ever have mentioned that extremely perfect centering is a thing. It would just not exist as a "quality criteria" (again: We are talking about functionally still perfect here. No rubbing on the inside of the scales or the like)
- How many of you would even notice a point that is off centered by a fraction of a millimeter like on the Endura in the pic?
- How many would even check if the centering is perfect?
- How many would see it as a "flaw" and reduced quality?
I am sure some still WOULD, no doubt!
But I am convinced: A large part of folks has just "heard" and "learned" that this "should" be an relevant issue
Really, this is no critique and not meant to offend anyone.
It is, among other aspects, just an example for how far we came away from just appreciating a perfect (cutting) tool, but are concerned with tiny details one has to deliberately look for or even to be told that they ARE an issue at all. And have nothing to do with the knife as a TOOL.
And, to be clear: This is 100% true for me too, of course!!! Just in other areas, where others might not be as concerned as I am with tiny details.
Enjoy your off-centered knives and I'll enjoy my centered ones. Some of which were off-centered from factory, adjusted(by me) to perfecty centered and some of those that got adjusted were sold. Now you're gonna ask. Did I "adjust" it for my satisfaction or for the "new" owners...just cause I care that much about someone else's opinions and wanted to give them the satisfaction of owning an expensive "PERFECT" tool they can add to THEIR collection.
This is a "cursed" thread somehow... perhaps just should get deleted.
Or is it just the internet and people like to vent and let steam off.
Or are just used to everything being a personal "attack" and argument.
With all due respect, Sir: You seem to not really reply to my actual post. Parade read that one again. (and several posts of mine before):
- I LITERALLY said that I fully get, understand and respect when people like perfect centering
- I made clear that a lot of people of course and naturally will value perfect symmetry, and that this is perfectly fine and understandable, and, as said, just natural. Just as I made clear that I myself care for details on knives that others might not even see too.
- I never dismissed any opinion.
- I never said that I´d be correct, this clearly is not even about who´s "correct and who´s not"
- All I am saying is... well, you could have read that actually before your replied - that I think:
The "perfect blade centering thing" is to a part a quality criteria, that some (SOME!) people would not see as such, if they would not have heard that it should be an issue (in my case: It never occurred to me for years to even look if a blade tip was off centered for a fraction of a mm, like on the pic of the Endura above, before I heard that this even is something to look for)
- And I discussed this just as an interesting example for how the way we (we!) are looking on "perfect tools" has shifted and now includes things that have nothing to do anymore with if a knife that is perfect as such - as a cutting tool. But nowadays a very slight asymmetry, that can only be seen when the knife is not ready for use anyway (so closed), and when deliberately looking from a certain perspective on it, is a thing. Again: THIS IS FINE of course. Just interesting.
So: No need to get mad. It was perfectly obvious all the time that I am absolutely fine with and happy when people enjoy 100% centered blades.
(And of course: When I sell folders, I either make perfectly clear (with pics) that and how much a blade is off centered (if this is the case), or center it before selling the knife and check if this is a permanent adjustment (for it is easy to temporarely center a blade just for a pic).
We can agree on one thing though. That's KILL this thread. OP just DOESN'T get it nor accepts OTHER people's opinions as it is. After over 2-3 years I think I remember why I stop coming and posting here...
FYI, If you don't strive for "PERFECTION" in your life, then you're just left with something that is less than perfect.
Would you ALSO accept a concrete slab that's NOT level or close to level as it should be? How bout some exterior wall framing that's kinda close to plumb....
Pretty sure we could go on and on about what's right and wrong. NOTHING wrong with a knife that has a "centered" blade. But, NOBODY appreciates spending THEIR $ for one that's NOT regardless of cost. ESPECIALLY if that knife was a few hundred dollar bills though.