Pochi for Self-defense?
Pochi for Self-defense?
Hey,
Can the Pochi be an effective self-defense tool?
Can the Pochi be an effective self-defense tool?
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If you whip it out they may admire how cute it is buying you time to run away.
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Anything can be used in self defense.
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Sure. But you will easily be within striking and grappling distance, and you will have to know what targets the small blade can "reach" in a slash and be able to hit them while under attack. It is also Winter now and people wear sweaters and puffy coats.
I think you would be limited to slash attacks to the face and neck for your self defense.
That is why larger and "pointier" blades are better for self defense.
I think you would be limited to slash attacks to the face and neck for your self defense.
That is why larger and "pointier" blades are better for self defense.
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Knives in general are a poor self defense tool. Tiny knives are even worse.
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Lol, any blade with a point would give someone something to think about.
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As long as you accept it's limitations and your own it should work fine.
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Agreed, its the man not the tool
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Knives used in self defense got me out of a jam twice. After training in edged weapons in 2001 and beyond, I've never left home without one or more on me.metaphoricalsimile wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:19 pmKnives in general are a poor self defense tool. Tiny knives are even worse.
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keep your knife sharp and your focus sharper.
current collection:
C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
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C36MCW2, C258YL, C253GBBK, C258GFBL, C101GBBK2, C11GYW, C11FWNB20CV, C101GBN15V2, C101GODFDE2, C60GGY, C149G, C189, C101GBN2, MT35, C211TI, C242CF, C217GSSF, C101BN2, C85G2, C91BBK, C142G, C122GBBK, LBK, LYL3HB, C193, C28YL2, C11ZPGYD, C41YL5, C252G, C130G, PLKIT1
spyderco steels:
H2, CPM 20CV, CPM 15V, CTS 204P, CPM CRUWEAR, CPM S30V, N690Co, M390, CPM MagnaCut, LC200N, CTS XHP, H1, 8Cr13MoV, GIN-1, CTS BD1, VG-10, VG-10/Damascus, 440C
Re: Pochi for Self-defense?
There was a man who worked as a celebrity bodyguard who used to use a Spyderco Ladybug. When escorting his female client, when she had to walk in between past throngs of fans behind barricades, he would keep the opened Ladybug in his semi-open hand, with only the very tip sticking out between two of his fingertips. If fans reached over the barricade and grabbed his client, he would lightly tap their fingers or hands, and the sudden pain of being pricked would make them pull their hands back, without really injuring them. To a casual observer, it just looked like he was trying to gently push their hands away with his fingers.
This was many years ago. Not really self-defense from an actual attack, but could have been. And under the right circumstances, anything can work, depending on the user.
Jim
This was many years ago. Not really self-defense from an actual attack, but could have been. And under the right circumstances, anything can work, depending on the user.
Jim
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A few weeks ago there was a murder here in Belgium. A senior citizen was killed in her room by an elder guy. The victim was 99 years old. Both where patiënts in the same retirement house. The weapon of choice was a pen....
So yes the Pochi, beeing stronger as a pen will suffice to cause harm if needed. And a lot of determination.
So yes the Pochi, beeing stronger as a pen will suffice to cause harm if needed. And a lot of determination.
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Sure. It’s light weight. Won’t weigh you down as much as you run away like say a shaman or military. I’m a bit of a coward and always wear sneakers so take that for what it’s worth.
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Yes, but you have to be ready for the aftermaths (legal, ptsd of using a gruesome weapon...). If that's ok to you, yes a knife is a great self defense tool. You only need one stab in a thigh to incapacitate someone immediately and that's not something that hard to do.Naperville wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:30 pmKnives used in self defense got me out of a jam twice. After training in edged weapons in 2001 and beyond, I've never left home without one or more on me.metaphoricalsimile wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:19 pmKnives in general are a poor self defense tool. Tiny knives are even worse.
It's worse than a gun or a SD baton, but it's deadly. There's a reason why kitchen knives are the most deadly weapons in the world by far.
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Pochi for self defense? Absolutely not. Any hard object big enough to hold can be used as an improvised weapon, and I'd say the Pochi qualifies as a hard object. As an intentional choice for a defensive knife however, it would be among the absolute worst. It has no reach, a poor grip, fumbly deployment and a lock that's been known to disengage from moderate steady pressure on the spine. It's not good for stabbing or defanging cuts. It's basically the opposite of a fighting knife in every meaningful way.
You want something with a full, secure grip in both forward and reverse orientations, a much longer blade, a stabbing tip and a strong lock. The only Spydercos I'd want in a fight are the Native Chief, Police or Millie, in that order. Everything else is too short, too clunky or has a gimmicky 'defensive' blade shape which compromises basic utility for no real defensive benefit.
At the end of the day, the fact that you're asking if the Pochi can be used as a defensive tool means you need quite a bit of training before you should ever consider trying to defend yourself with a knife. You need to be asking different questions, probably on a different forum.
You want something with a full, secure grip in both forward and reverse orientations, a much longer blade, a stabbing tip and a strong lock. The only Spydercos I'd want in a fight are the Native Chief, Police or Millie, in that order. Everything else is too short, too clunky or has a gimmicky 'defensive' blade shape which compromises basic utility for no real defensive benefit.
At the end of the day, the fact that you're asking if the Pochi can be used as a defensive tool means you need quite a bit of training before you should ever consider trying to defend yourself with a knife. You need to be asking different questions, probably on a different forum.
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The legality of using a knife has not been lost on me, but anything used in a state, county or city run by liberals is a deadly weapon and they will and have prosecuted me. I RETIRED, AND NO LONGER WORK. My degrees are worthless, I threw it all away to defend myself and I'd do it all again. It is more important to be able to defend myself vs get beat up by 4 to 5 guys. I have never thrust, slashed, or cut anyone in my life. Merely the appearance of a knife out of your pocket when getting beat upon is ag assault.Xformer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:23 pmYes, but you have to be ready for the aftermaths (legal, ptsd of using a gruesome weapon...). If that's ok to you, yes a knife is a great self defense tool. You only need one stab in a thigh to incapacitate someone immediately and that's not something that hard to do.Naperville wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:30 pmKnives used in self defense got me out of a jam twice. After training in edged weapons in 2001 and beyond, I've never left home without one or more on me.metaphoricalsimile wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:19 pmKnives in general are a poor self defense tool. Tiny knives are even worse.
It's worse than a gun or a SD baton, but it's deadly. There's a reason why kitchen knives are the most deadly weapons in the world by far.
You have to make a decision on where to live and who's rules to play by. I live in Illinois and it is not a state favorable to self defense if you are in Cook County or Chicago. I plan on moving out of here when the chance comes but it could be quite a long time.
I agree 100% that a CCW and handgun would be better for self defense. It's almost a license to kill.
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I feel you.Naperville wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:55 pmThe legality of using a knife has not been lost on me, but anything used in a state, county or city run by liberals is a deadly weapon and they will and have prosecuted me. I RETIRED, AND NO LONGER WORK. My degrees are worthless, I threw it all away to defend myself and I'd do it all again. It is more important to be able to defend myself vs get beat up by 4 to 5 guys. I have never thrust, slashed, or cut anyone in my life. Merely the appearance of a knife out of your pocket when getting beat upon is ag assault.Xformer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:23 pmYes, but you have to be ready for the aftermaths (legal, ptsd of using a gruesome weapon...). If that's ok to you, yes a knife is a great self defense tool. You only need one stab in a thigh to incapacitate someone immediately and that's not something that hard to do.Naperville wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:30 pmKnives used in self defense got me out of a jam twice. After training in edged weapons in 2001 and beyond, I've never left home without one or more on me.metaphoricalsimile wrote: ↑Sun Dec 19, 2021 4:19 pmKnives in general are a poor self defense tool. Tiny knives are even worse.
It's worse than a gun or a SD baton, but it's deadly. There's a reason why kitchen knives are the most deadly weapons in the world by far.
You have to make a decision on where to live and who's rules to play by. I live in Illinois and it is not a state favorable to self defense if you are in Cook County or Chicago. I plan on moving out of here when the chance comes but it could be quite a long time.
I agree 100% that a CCW and handgun would be better for self defense. It's almost a license to kill.
Better be alive by breaking the laws than dead by respecting it religiousely. I shouldn't say that given what I do for a living but I'm being 100% honest.
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A different day, a different county, a different city and things probably would have worked in my favor. They have before. Thems the breaks! They stopped beating on me the second I said, "KNIFE!" and it never left my right hip.
In so far as knives and self defense, they DO work. Just be aware of where you are when involved.
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I’m so glad I’m Australian and live in Australia for many, many reasons.
I can’t imagine what it must be like having to leave home armed every day.
I can’t imagine what it must be like having to leave home armed every day.
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