Cru-/Mi-carta Military: Am I wrong or would it gain a lot of weight?

[Kels73]

If I'm not mistaken, Micarta is a bit lighter than G10. So as long as the Micarta scales are cut to the same dimensions, it won't make it heavier.

[Wartstein]

If I'm not mistaken, Micarta is a bit lighter than G10. So as long as the Micarta scales are cut to the same dimensions, it won't make it heavier.

As laid out in my original post: Weight of handle material is not the issue here, but that a Micarta Millie would have to go from its minimal liners to full, not even nested ones.
THIS would add a lot of weight.

I assume this, because Spyderco changed the liners in the Crucarta PM2 from nested to full in order to guarantee their standards concerning structural strength of the handle..
So most likely they would give a Micarta Millie full (in the sense of not nested) liners over the whole length of the handle too.

[Kels73]

If I'm not mistaken, Micarta is a bit lighter than G10. So as long as the Micarta scales are cut to the same dimensions, it won't make it heavier.

As laid out in my original post: Weight of handle material is not the issue here, but that a Micarta Millie would have to go from its minimal liners to full, not even nested ones.
THIS would add a lot of weight.

I assume this, because Spyderco changed the liners in the Crucarta PM2 from nested to full in order to guarantee their standards concerning structural strength of the handle..
So most likely they would give a Micarta Millie full (in the sense of not nested) liners over the whole length of the handle too.

I question whether they really need to strengthen the steel liners. Micarta is not as strong as G10, but it's still very strong. I wonder if controlled testing led them to change the liners in the PM2, or if they were just excessively cautious. Aftermarket Micarta scales have been popular for several years, and their dimensions are usually close to spec.

[Wartstein]

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I question whether they really need to strengthen the steel liners. Micarta is not as strong as G10, but it's still very strong. I wonder if controlled testing led them to change the liners in the PM2, or if they were just excessively cautious. Aftermarket Micarta scales have been popular for several years, and their dimensions are usually close to spec.

Yes, in my experience too Micarta is strong enough! It takes little "nicks" easier than G10, but this would be the same with full liners.

But I am sure they thought about it before they gave the PM2 full instead of nested liners - and certainly Spydercos standards are higher than mine.
Perhaps Micarta tends to shrink or expand more in different climates? And this is not much of an issue with just Micarta slabs on full liners, but could be with nested liners?
Don´t know.

[Kels73]

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I question whether they really need to strengthen the steel liners. Micarta is not as strong as G10, but it's still very strong. I wonder if controlled testing led them to change the liners in the PM2, or if they were just excessively cautious. Aftermarket Micarta scales have been popular for several years, and their dimensions are usually close to spec.

Yes, in my experience too Micarta is strong enough! It takes little "nicks" easier than G10, but this would be the same with full liners.

But I am sure they thought about it before they gave the PM2 full instead of nested liners - and certainly Spydercos standards are higher than mine.
Perhaps Micarta tends to shrink or expand more in different climates? And this is not much of an issue with just Micarta slabs on full liners, but could be with nested liners?
Don´t know.

Good points, Wartstein. I don't know either, but it makes for good discussion.

I'm inclined to think that Micarta is plenty strong enough. But then again, I don't have to pay for warranty repairs if I'm wrong, lol.

[kennethsime]

I'd be ok with full liners. I'd also be ok with a RIL half-and-half Micarta-Titanium knife. Actually, just give me that one please.