Native 5 with Compression Lock please!

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Re: Native 5 with Compression Lock please!

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ladybug93 wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:59 pm
maybe i misread, but it seems overboard to call a thread cringy and ignorant.
Yeah, I don’t get it, why would anyone be opposed to a new variation? No one is asking for the current variations to be replaced.

I would love a native 5 compression lock. No, the sage 5 is not close enough. The c41psbbk5 would be sweet with a compression lock.
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I am all for more native designs, a comp lock would be cool. I think a lil native chief would be cool too.
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Re: Native 5 with Compression Lock please!

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I honestly don't think the comp lock worked on the Lil Native and I'm pretty certain it's not the best lock for the Native either. The backlock on the Native and Native LW are probably the best in the lineup (aside from the lack of a boye dent). I feel like Sal said that Eric worked on refining the lock for something crazy like 8 years before the Native LW was released.

I love seeing new models and people getting what they want, but with capacity at Golden limited as it is, I'd rather see increased production of popular models like the Cru-Carta Shaman and the development of other Cru-Carta models and Salt models like a Manix LW Salt, PM2 Salt, Military Salt, etc. In my opinion Spyderco would be better served taking the amazing Golden lineup they have and building out these Cru-Carta and Salt variations rather than spending tons of time and money on R&D to change the lock on models that already have the ideal lock to appease people who like to fidget with their knives.
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Re: Native 5 with Compression Lock please!

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steelcity16 wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:02 pm
I honestly don't think the comp lock worked on the Lil Native.
It might not work for everyone but it sure seems like it sells well. 4 production models plus 1 sprint and 1 exclusive so far. I hope we do get to see the Lil Native backlock salt lightweight
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Re: Native 5 with Compression Lock please!

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I love the idea and have thought about it often. I have (I believe at last count) 5 Native 5's. I also have a Sage 5 both peel ply and lightweight. I would say they're not the equivalent of each other. A Native 5 with a compression lock would take up less room in the pocket given the blade doesn't have the pronounced hump that the Sage and the Para 3 do. Really as far as slim Spidy's go I can't think of any with a compression lock except the lil native (which is a great knife).
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Re: Native 5 with Compression Lock please!

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Yes I want this! For me it is mainly an aesthetic preference. I love the uninterrupted line from the tip to end. If this ever comes out I will sell my para3 in a heartbeat.
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That uninterrupted line is not so smooth from the other side and it is far from smooth in use, at least to my thumb.
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Re: Native 5 with Compression Lock please!

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I like this idea.
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Re: Native 5 with Compression Lock please!

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No Bueno. Keep Native 5 back lock.
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The Native 5 LW has a lot of drag from the lock bar, something all back locks naturally have if the spring is decent. The compression lock is one of the smoothest locks I've ever felt. So I like the idea of having both the back lock and compression lock just like the lil Native.
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Re: Native 5 with Compression Lock please!

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Sounds good to me but keep the backlock too.
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Until they expand the Golden production facility, I have a hard time seeing the benefit of investing in something like this when the existing backlock model is perfectly fine.
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Re: Native 5 with Compression Lock please!

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After getting a Lil Native (which I thought was for trade bait only) and unexpectedly falling in love with the design (and ending up keeping it), I can't help but think "what if the Lil Native had a little bit more handle space"? I think this idea would be awesome.
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Re: Native 5 with Compression Lock please!

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I would LOVE a Native 5 with a compression lock…and a wire clip.
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Re: Native 5 with Compression Lock please!

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Spydergirl88 wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:46 pm
I am all for more native designs, a comp lock would be cool. I think a lil native chief would be cool too.
Which would be kind of a Native 5 plus or XL ?! ;)
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Re: Native 5 with Compression Lock please!

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Wartstein wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:30 am
Spydergirl88 wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:46 pm
I am all for more native designs, a comp lock would be cool. I think a lil native chief would be cool too.
Which would be kind of a Native 5 plus or XL ?! ;)
The more native models the better!
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Re: Native 5 with Compression Lock please!

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I would rather see more steels in Sage 5 than a compression lock in Native 5 ... and make Sage 6 with button lock once at it ;)
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Re: Native 5 with Compression Lock please!

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TkoK83Spy wrote:
Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:29 am
Nope, keep the Native 5 just as it is. Plenty of other Spyderco folders in the same size range with compression locks.

I couldn't agree more.
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Re: Native 5 with Compression Lock please!

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Compression lock Native 5, yes.
My N5's are great, but I've had surgery on my thumb and pressing the lock bar hurts my thumb.
A compression lock Native 5 would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Native 5 with Compression Lock please!

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I'm NOT a big fan of the Native 5 (I own 2 of them), but I have to admit that the Native 5's back lock itself is outstanding. Better than it would be with a comp lock, IMO. The big negative about comp locks is that the whole system depends on a tiny detent ball, which I've heard instances of wearing out, or even being lost.

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