curlyhairedboy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 22, 2020 3:31 pmFor me the tip geometry is my primary consideration when I think about hard use. Tough materials like reinforced hoses sometimes require some twisting, and I want the tip to survive binding without breaking. I wouldn't consider using the Watu for that, while the Shaman is perfect for it.
It's also one of the reasons I'm excited to see the tanto pm2.
+1
As I´ve mentioned already: "Hard use" (if there is such a thing or a definition for it at all) for me means above all not being able to be somewhat carefull (mostly because of working under time pressure). So you´ll have to stab into or through stuff in order to initiate a cut and then twist the blade, your knife WILL hit hard materials, and both will be most "dangerous" for the tip....
Hence one point of this thread: Does it make really sense that knives like the Millie are considered to be more "hard use" cause of their (for Spyderco) a bit thicker stock while still having that fine tip?
(Again: Purely seen from a "hard use" perspective! Generally the Millie design and its fine and very usefull tip are great).