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Re: Chaparral FRN Lightweight - Unobtainium?

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The Deacon wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:20 am
To my eyes, of all the Chaparral versions, the CF still represents the best balance of looks, weight, grip, and price point.
Second that! I'd gladly swap my LW for a CF model!
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Larry_Mott wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:08 am
The Deacon wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:20 am
To my eyes, of all the Chaparral versions, the CF still represents the best balance of looks, weight, grip, and price point.
Second that! I'd gladly swap my LW for a CF model!
More power to you and the Deacon, but you are obviously totally emphasizing the factor "looks" (which is perfectly fine of course!), right? For in the other 3 areas (pricepoint, weight, grip(iness) the Chap FRN "wins"...
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The CF is definitely grippier than the smooth ti or the RN.

How you prioritize characteristics will always tip the final balance when you are trying for a personal "balance" of characteristics.
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Shabazz can take partial credit for it being OOS everywhere.......lol
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Wartstein wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:16 am
Larry_Mott wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:08 am
The Deacon wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:20 am
To my eyes, of all the Chaparral versions, the CF still represents the best balance of looks, weight, grip, and price point.
Second that! I'd gladly swap my LW for a CF model!
More power to you and the Deacon, but you are obviously totally emphasizing the factor "looks" (which is perfectly fine of course!), right? For in the other 3 areas (pricepoint, weight, grip(iness) the Chap FRN "wins"...
The LW is lighter, grippier and more affordable so from a purely pragmatic angle it is probably the better knife in use. That said, how much grip do you need on such a small knife and since I always use the choil with it the grip is quite secure. Also, neither one is heavy enough to even notice in your pocket so I am indifferent there.

In my opinion the CF version is still the best one made so far and that is coming from someone who isn’t a huge fan of CF.
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Cscottsss wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:18 am
Shabazz can take partial credit for it being OOS everywhere.......lol
... though I think I remember he found the lockbar uncomfortable to press, right?!
I never did so, even BEFORE the Chap did break in nicely and if that's not enough there's that easy spring relocating mod anyway.
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bearfacedkiller wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:33 am
Wartstein wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:16 am
Larry_Mott wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:08 am
The Deacon wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:20 am
To my eyes, of all the Chaparral versions, the CF still represents the best balance of looks, weight, grip, and price point.
Second that! I'd gladly swap my LW for a CF model!
More power to you and the Deacon, but you are obviously totally emphasizing the factor "looks" (which is perfectly fine of course!), right? For in the other 3 areas (pricepoint, weight, grip(iness) the Chap FRN "wins"...
The LW is lighter, grippier and more affordable so from a purely pragmatic angle it is probably the better knife in use. That said, how much grip do you need on such a small knife and since I always use the choil with it the grip is quite secure. Also, neither one is heavy enough to even notice in your pocket so I am indifferent there.

In my opinion the CF version is still the best one made so far and that is coming from someone who isn’t a huge fan of CF.
As I said already: I am not even entitled to really discuss that, since I personally never handled the CF version. It may very well be the best version for many!

I guess I just want to point out, that with the Chap FRN one can get that perfect design in that great HXP steel for an amazingly low price. And the FRN handle of the Chap is both very classy looking (for FRN) and very functional with it's special ("non delica-ish) texture.

The version I could not resist would be a Micarta-Chap...
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Wartstein wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:32 am

The version I could not resist would be a Micarta-Chap...

Yep, I would love a non-polished slightly roughed up texture matte olive drab green canvas Micarta Chaparral paired with something like a DLC coated CPM-4V (which should already be over there for the Province) blade. I really don't like polished Micarta or smooth scales of any kind.
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steelcity16 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:50 am
Wartstein wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:32 am

The version I could not resist would be a Micarta-Chap...

Yep, I would love a non-polished slightly roughed up texture matte olive drab green canvas Micarta Chaparral paired with something like a DLC coated CPM-4V (which should already be over there for the Province) blade. I really don't like polished Micarta or smooth scales of any kind.
Sounds great!! (handlewise, concerning the steel I am totally fine with the HXP, but wouldn't mind another good one either). I also strongly prefer rougher textured Micarta generally and also on the Chap, but could live with smoother one if there's no choice.
Top three going by pocket-time (update March 24):
- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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Wartstein wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:16 am
Larry_Mott wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:08 am
The Deacon wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:20 am
To my eyes, of all the Chaparral versions, the CF still represents the best balance of looks, weight, grip, and price point.
Second that! I'd gladly swap my LW for a CF model!
More power to you and the Deacon, but you are obviously totally emphasizing the factor "looks" (which is perfectly fine of course!), right? For in the other 3 areas (pricepoint, weight, grip(iness) the Chap FRN "wins"...
Yes, looks does matter to me. Grip(pyness) and weight not so much. I used to EDC a SS Police, and i am old enough to have owned (still do actually) Buck 110/112 and Schrade LB 7 I can't remember ever wanting a knife to have more grip to be honest. :)
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Wartstein wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:12 am
steelcity16 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:50 am
Wartstein wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:32 am

The version I could not resist would be a Micarta-Chap...

Yep, I would love a non-polished slightly roughed up texture matte olive drab green canvas Micarta Chaparral paired with something like a DLC coated CPM-4V (which should already be over there for the Province) blade. I really don't like polished Micarta or smooth scales of any kind.
Sounds great!! (handlewise, concerning the steel I am totally fine with the HXP, but wouldn't mind another good one either). I also strongly prefer rougher textured Micarta generally and also on the Chap, but could live with smoother one if there's no choice.
Micarta sounds fantastic, but i doubt we'd get that from Taiwan considering the humidity from there could be problematic. Sp i've heard
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Unadan wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:04 am
Wondering why there is no stock anywhere of this knife? I've checked all the big online knife retailers - no dice. Wondering if I should take a chance on a Raffir Noble model.
Its available at www.warriorsandwonders.com if you dont mind shopping on a canadian site.
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steelcity16 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:50 am
Wartstein wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:32 am
The version I could not resist would be a Micarta-Chap...
Yep, I would love a non-polished slightly roughed up texture matte olive drab green canvas Micarta Chaparral paired with something like a DLC coated CPM-4V (which should already be over there for the Province) blade. I really don't like polished Micarta or smooth scales of any kind.
Sign me up except for the DLC blade (not on this knife). XHP is perfectly adequate too
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Marulaghost wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:35 am
Wartstein wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:12 am
steelcity16 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:50 am
Wartstein wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:32 am
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Micarta sounds fantastic, but i doubt we'd get that from Taiwan considering the humidity from there could be problematic. Sp i've heard
Yes, Sal mentioned something like that the shipping from a very humid to a very dry climate could cause Micarta to shrink (?).

My experience with my Micarta handled Endura and my two Micarta fixed blades is that the handles can get soaken wet and dry again quickly in a really dry room without any problems.
But probably when it comes to large quantities of folders being shipped and the high quality standards Spyderco has generally and especially for the Chap, there WOULD be problems now and then..

But then, the Chap is meant to be the model showcasing different handle materials, so at one point they can't disregard Micarta I hope...
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A.S.O.K.A wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:49 am
Unadan wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:04 am
Wondering why there is no stock anywhere of this knife? I've checked all the big online knife retailers - no dice. Wondering if I should take a chance on a Raffir Noble model.
Its available at www.warriorsandwonders.com if you dont mind shopping on a canadian site.

Go for it, Unadan, I'm sure you won't regret it... :D
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- EDC: Endura thin red line ffg combo edge (VG10); Wayne Goddard PE (4V), Endela SE (VG10)
-Mountains/outdoors: Pac.Salt 1 SE (H1), Salt 2 SE (LC200N), and also Wayne Goddard PE (4V)
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Sharp Guy wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:54 am
steelcity16 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:50 am
Wartstein wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:32 am
The version I could not resist would be a Micarta-Chap...
Yep, I would love a non-polished slightly roughed up texture matte olive drab green canvas Micarta Chaparral paired with something like a DLC coated CPM-4V (which should already be over there for the Province) blade. I really don't like polished Micarta or smooth scales of any kind.

Sign me up except for the DLC blade (not on this knife). XHP is perfectly adequate too

CTS-XHP and Satin are great, but I already have the Chap LW, and variety is the spice of life as they say! :D
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Sharp Guy wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:54 am
steelcity16 wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:50 am
Wartstein wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:32 am
The version I could not resist would be a Micarta-Chap...
Yep, I would love a non-polished slightly roughed up texture matte olive drab green canvas Micarta Chaparral paired with something like a DLC coated CPM-4V (which should already be over there for the Province) blade. I really don't like polished Micarta or smooth scales of any kind.
Sign me up except for the DLC blade (not on this knife). XHP is perfectly adequate too
I've been dreaming about a natural canvas Micarta Chaparral.. Might have to make my own
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The FRN is also rougher on your pocket than the CF, and the RN is even smoother still. Which won't matter in use, but might matter to someone looking for a "dress up" carry knife.
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Wartstein wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:37 am
this_is_nascar wrote:
Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:39 am
Unadan wrote:
Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:04 am
Wondering why there is no stock anywhere of this knife? I've checked all the big online knife retailers - no dice. Wondering if I should take a chance on a Raffir Noble model.
As much as I love the Chaparral, I'd never make the same mistake getting this version without first seeing it. Too many variations concerning the looks of the scales.
Certainly you're referring specifically and solely to the Raffir Noble version.. ?
Correct...
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