A good hunting knife?
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A good hunting knife?
I think it's fair to say I'm a bit of an outdoorsman. I enjoy camping very much and try to go as much as I can. I've never been hunting though and I think I may have a chance to go with one of my friend. While cleaning fishes or rabbits can be done with almost any short and sharp knife, a good hunting knife is something else. The guy I'd be going with uses a Rapala skinner, which is a good knife but kind of boring. What makes a good hunting knife? I know it has to have a lot of belly for skinning but what else should I be looking for? Is there any knife in Spyderco's line-up that could fit the bill? Is the gut-hook absolutly necessary? Does a Temperance has what it takes to be a hunting knife? Folder Vs Fixed blade? The fact of the matter is I like the strenght of a tanto point but I understand it's not a good choice for hunting, or can any knife be an "improvised-hunter". As you can see, I know nothing about that. I would appreciate some feedbacks. Thanks
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For FBs,
You can't go wrong with either of the Morans but the drop point FB02 is probably the all-round best bet.
Folderwise,
The Military has a cult following as the do-everything-go-anywhere-if-the-world-goes-back-to-the-Stone-Age knife. Sal designed it for his son in fact, if what I hear is true.
The Chinook is excellent for hard use and camp chores, and is THE option if you want a folder built like a tank that can give the FBs a run for their money in terms of strength.
If Non-<img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>co,
Fallkniven makes excellent FBs. The A1, F1, H1 and S1 are all great knives and are worth a look.
Shards
You can't go wrong with either of the Morans but the drop point FB02 is probably the all-round best bet.
Folderwise,
The Military has a cult following as the do-everything-go-anywhere-if-the-world-goes-back-to-the-Stone-Age knife. Sal designed it for his son in fact, if what I hear is true.
The Chinook is excellent for hard use and camp chores, and is THE option if you want a folder built like a tank that can give the FBs a run for their money in terms of strength.
If Non-<img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>co,
Fallkniven makes excellent FBs. The A1, F1, H1 and S1 are all great knives and are worth a look.
Shards
I agree with Allan and Shards as far as the fixed blades are concerned but as a UK user, I find the Progrip as good as any folder I've ever used. It is sheeple friendly too!
It is "small" 7 3/4" open, very strong with a slighty sub 3" drop point VG-10 blade. There is a Kraton rubber insert which coupled with the thumb rest cut-out on the blade makes for great blade control even when things get messy!
I use mine mainly for paunching and hocking rabbits, but it is well capable for larger beasties!
As a second choice I'd consider the Cold Steel Pro-lite.
Regards Ken
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.
It is "small" 7 3/4" open, very strong with a slighty sub 3" drop point VG-10 blade. There is a Kraton rubber insert which coupled with the thumb rest cut-out on the blade makes for great blade control even when things get messy!
I use mine mainly for paunching and hocking rabbits, but it is well capable for larger beasties!
As a second choice I'd consider the Cold Steel Pro-lite.
Regards Ken
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.
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The Military will do it all and do it well.I have used mine for hunting and fishing.It does a great job on trout.
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The military sounds like my kind of knife. I think that if I buy another Spyderco anytime soon, I'll go for that. The thing is that when I look at it, itreally doesn't have a lot of belly(well not more than some knives I own) and you're saying it would do a good job anyway? Is there any chance to pierce the skin or organs with the sharp point? Any thoughts about the gut hook?
If Mr. Glesser designed the Military for his son, that quite nice. It's not any knife, it seems to be the best in their line-up so far (until the ATR comes into play!) Thanks for the posts anyway, I'll keep on shopping
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If Mr. Glesser designed the Military for his son, that quite nice. It's not any knife, it seems to be the best in their line-up so far (until the ATR comes into play!) Thanks for the posts anyway, I'll keep on shopping
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Of the spydies, either the wegner models for folders or the fb02 moran drop point for fixed would work...
for non spydies, the tichbourne h7... Been using mine for edc for a little over a week and love it. Touched up my edge(wasn't shaving yesterday) in 5-6 light strokes on spydie whites yesterday.
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H7. SMALL WOOD SKINNER
3/16" 440C-OAL 5 3/4" Blade 2 1/2
Brass Rivets/thong tube
Cocobolo handle
Standard wood handle
CDN $123 USA $92
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for non spydies, the tichbourne h7... Been using mine for edc for a little over a week and love it. Touched up my edge(wasn't shaving yesterday) in 5-6 light strokes on spydie whites yesterday.
http://members.shaw.ca/djharyett/pics/
H7. SMALL WOOD SKINNER
3/16" 440C-OAL 5 3/4" Blade 2 1/2
Brass Rivets/thong tube
Cocobolo handle
Standard wood handle
CDN $123 USA $92
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- redhawk44p
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The Moran and the Milie are amazing cutting tools. They out perform all of my other knives.
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Like BargainBlades I'm really pro-Pro-Grip.
You sounded like you needed a bigger blade though, so I did'nt push for what IMHO is one of the best hunting/EDC <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>co folders (along with the Wegners) around <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
If you get a chance, give it a try and you may fall in love with it as much as I did.
That's my plug for today...
You sounded like you needed a bigger blade though, so I did'nt push for what IMHO is one of the best hunting/EDC <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>co folders (along with the Wegners) around <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
If you get a chance, give it a try and you may fall in love with it as much as I did.
That's my plug for today...
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I copy this from Usual Suspect. I hope is OK to copy this for the purpose of knowledge. If not, moderator pls delete it and I'm apologize.
Ramlan
Thought I'd post this as an fyi
“The Wegner Professional Hunter’s Knife”
Most people look at a hunting knife as being primarily a skinning knife and neglect five other very important tasks:
field dressing, quartering, boning, disjointing and caping.
Another task that must be mentioned is the use as a survival tool in the event of a backcountry emergency.
All of the above tasks can be accomplished with one knife and without the aid of an ax or a saw.
Being an avid hunter I designed the Wegner Professional Hunter to be a multi-tasking knife that will accomplish all that a back country hunter requires of it in the field and still keep it’s edge. It is ideal for large Whitetails and Mule deer but really excels on moose and elk sized game.
The concept of using one knife to do all the field work saves on the hassle of having to carry the extra weight of three or four specialty knives far into the field. The modified Loveless style semi-skinner blade is dropped just enough to open a carcass without snagging the paunch. The blades skinning belly is comprised of a gradual sweep that works great removing the hide from the largest game by using an even rocking motion utilizing the blade's full belly rather than the tip.
The knife's tip is strong and sharp and not only aids in opening up the body cavity, but more importantly, its’ sharpness gives it the ability to perform intricate cutting chores where precision control is required. The thin flat ground S30V blade is just right for cutting flesh, but will take heavy abuse such as the demanding jobs of disjointing and quartering.
The thin non-slip G10 handle was designed to fit all hands with or without gloves. The large “V” opening hole makes deploying the blade an easy one handed operation. The handle is ergonomically shaped and comfortable for long periods of time in all configurations. The spine has 3 sets of serrations for precision finger placement and control when performing delicate cutting operations. The choil is also serrated. All of the serrations serve to give one the ability to index the blade so you know where the tip and cutting edge is at all times. The handle has double nested liners and a rock solid liner lock that’s built to withstand the toughest field conditions.
The handles open construction allows for easy cleaning. Just a wipe down in the field and a thorough hot water rinse back at camp and an occasional drop of oil on the pivot screw is all that is necessary to keep the knife in good working order.
A piece of nylon cord in the thong hole comes in handy working in deep snow or over water.
Ever dropped a knife in 3 feet of snow?
Top it all off with a total weight of 4.3 ounces the PH is light enough for daily carry.
These are just some of the considerations that went into the design of the Wegner Professional Hunters knife and were derived from my 35 or so years of field experience.
Tim Wegner
Designer/Manufacturer
President
Blade-Tech Ind. Inc
__________________
Tim Wegner
All America lies at the end of the Wilderness Road, and our past is not a dead past,
but still lives in us. Our forefathers had civilization inside themselves, the wild outside.
We live in the civilization they created, but within us the wilderness still lingers.
What they dreamed, we live, and what they lived we dream.
T.K. Whipple, Study Out the Land
Ramlan
Thought I'd post this as an fyi
“The Wegner Professional Hunter’s Knife”
Most people look at a hunting knife as being primarily a skinning knife and neglect five other very important tasks:
field dressing, quartering, boning, disjointing and caping.
Another task that must be mentioned is the use as a survival tool in the event of a backcountry emergency.
All of the above tasks can be accomplished with one knife and without the aid of an ax or a saw.
Being an avid hunter I designed the Wegner Professional Hunter to be a multi-tasking knife that will accomplish all that a back country hunter requires of it in the field and still keep it’s edge. It is ideal for large Whitetails and Mule deer but really excels on moose and elk sized game.
The concept of using one knife to do all the field work saves on the hassle of having to carry the extra weight of three or four specialty knives far into the field. The modified Loveless style semi-skinner blade is dropped just enough to open a carcass without snagging the paunch. The blades skinning belly is comprised of a gradual sweep that works great removing the hide from the largest game by using an even rocking motion utilizing the blade's full belly rather than the tip.
The knife's tip is strong and sharp and not only aids in opening up the body cavity, but more importantly, its’ sharpness gives it the ability to perform intricate cutting chores where precision control is required. The thin flat ground S30V blade is just right for cutting flesh, but will take heavy abuse such as the demanding jobs of disjointing and quartering.
The thin non-slip G10 handle was designed to fit all hands with or without gloves. The large “V” opening hole makes deploying the blade an easy one handed operation. The handle is ergonomically shaped and comfortable for long periods of time in all configurations. The spine has 3 sets of serrations for precision finger placement and control when performing delicate cutting operations. The choil is also serrated. All of the serrations serve to give one the ability to index the blade so you know where the tip and cutting edge is at all times. The handle has double nested liners and a rock solid liner lock that’s built to withstand the toughest field conditions.
The handles open construction allows for easy cleaning. Just a wipe down in the field and a thorough hot water rinse back at camp and an occasional drop of oil on the pivot screw is all that is necessary to keep the knife in good working order.
A piece of nylon cord in the thong hole comes in handy working in deep snow or over water.
Ever dropped a knife in 3 feet of snow?
Top it all off with a total weight of 4.3 ounces the PH is light enough for daily carry.
These are just some of the considerations that went into the design of the Wegner Professional Hunters knife and were derived from my 35 or so years of field experience.
Tim Wegner
Designer/Manufacturer
President
Blade-Tech Ind. Inc
__________________
Tim Wegner
All America lies at the end of the Wilderness Road, and our past is not a dead past,
but still lives in us. Our forefathers had civilization inside themselves, the wild outside.
We live in the civilization they created, but within us the wilderness still lingers.
What they dreamed, we live, and what they lived we dream.
T.K. Whipple, Study Out the Land
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