sal, have you or others ever looked at Carbinox T508 Steel?

[SpyderEdgeForever]

sal, have you and the Spyderco crew ever examined this steel? Carbinox T58. I do not know if it is a proprietary alloy formula, or, if they have it made by some steel producer and then purchase it and make knife blades from it. The description is interesting:

https://www.marttiini.fi/The-Sharpest-E ... binox-T508

"Carbinox T508 steel combines the best properties of carbon and chromium steel: toughness, ease of sharpening and extreme durability. The carbon content of the steel mixture is 0.5%, chromium content 8% and it has a hardness of 56–57 HRC. The material is not classified as stainless, although it significantly more corrosion resistant than traditional carbon steel. The basic maintenance of a Carbinox T508 blade requires nothing more than cleaning and drying the blade after use. We do, however, recommend oiling the blade with unsalted oil every now and then."

What types of familiar steel alloys is that likened to?

I would also welcome feedback from folks such as Ankerson and Larrin on this.


Would Carbinox be good for Spyderco knives or not so much?

[Bloke]

Ankerson and Larrin

[knivesandbooks]

Sounds old school

[Bodog]

sal, have you and the Spyderco crew ever examined this steel? Carbinox T58. I do not know if it is a proprietary alloy formula, or, if they have it made by some steel producer and then purchase it and make knife blades from it. The description is interesting:

https://www.marttiini.fi/The-Sharpest-E ... binox-T508

"Carbinox T508 steel combines the best properties of carbon and chromium steel: toughness, ease of sharpening and extreme durability. The carbon content of the steel mixture is 0.5%, chromium content 8% and it has a hardness of 56–57 HRC. The material is not classified as stainless, although it significantly more corrosion resistant than traditional carbon steel. The basic maintenance of a Carbinox T508 blade requires nothing more than cleaning and drying the blade after use. We do, however, recommend oiling the blade with unsalted oil every now and then."

What types of familiar steel alloys is that likened to?

I would also welcome feedback from folks such as Ankerson and Larrin on this.


Would Carbinox be good for Spyderco knives or not so much?

Sounds like a low/medium carbon, low alloy steel. Probably not able to get very hard and probably not very wear resistant so itd probably be fairly tough.

[zhyla]

Sounds old school

Sounds soft. 56-57 Rc? You can beat that with 440C from the 80’s. I mean, that’s probably good enough for low end EDC but doesn’t leave much on the table for more demanding applications. Hardness isn’t everything but softness isn’t anything.

[The Mastiff]

I don't know what the rest of the composition is but the part listed above puts it in the category of A8 Mod/Infi. I have had a couple knives in that steel from that company and what surprised me wasn't the steel but the mirror finish on part of the blade. It was nicely done. It sharpened easily. That is about all I remember. I traded it off.

Joe

[SpyderEdgeForever]

Thank you all for the interesting feedback on this. Does that mean that while a particular blade steel may be profitable for one knife company, that does not necessarilly guarantee that another company would find the same use out of that same alloy for their knives? I know some types of steel are used across the board, such as you pointed out, 440 series, and then N690 has been used by various knife makers, and 1095 carbon steel.

[Bodog]

Thank you all for the interesting feedback on this. Does that mean that while a particular blade steel may be profitable for one knife company, that does not necessarilly guarantee that another company would find the same use out of that same alloy for their knives? I know some types of steel are used across the board, such as you pointed out, 440 series, and then N690 has been used by various knife makers, and 1095 carbon steel.

Spyderco's fans seem to like M4 more than Benchmade's fans and Benchmade's fans seem to like M390 more than Spyderco's.

I would not want 1095 in a spyderco knife but I'd be more than happy buying and using an esee with the same steel. I likely would not want Cruwear or 4V done by esee. People are odd and they like to know or at least think what they're buying isn't generic stuff, that someone is a specialist at making whatever they're buying and that because they're in that niche, it'll be better than when made by someone not known to specialize in that. I'm sure spyderco would do 1095 right, but esee filled a niche with it. Spyderco has filled a niche with S110V though I'm sure other companies are competent with it, too. Same with CRK switching from S35vn to S110V, people would likely not be happy about it for a long time.

[Larrin]

The carbon and chromium does line up with A8 mod: http://cdna.terasrenki.com/ds/1.2631_X5 ... heet_3.pdf