REX45 vs. CPM 4V

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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby Pelagic » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:24 am

tps3443 wrote:
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I like S110V a lot. I really do, but it does chip about once a week I guess. If you avoid touching metal all together it won’t chip, but accidents happen and that’s just how S110V is.
Absolutely. Given i keep my s110v at about 12dps and no microbevel currently (i plan on using a micro in the next few sharpenings), chips often appear and I have absolutely no idea what caused them.
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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby tps3443 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:58 am

Wow! Maxamet is amazing. That video was incredible.
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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby TomAiello » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:05 am

tps3443 wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:58 am
Wow! Maxamet is amazing. That video was incredible.
Start using it. It's even more impressive in person. We've used Maxamet (Manix 2 LW) to cut through a braided steel cable, and it was still shaving sharp afterward.

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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby The Meat man » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:12 am

TomAiello wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:05 am
tps3443 wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:58 am
Wow! Maxamet is amazing. That video was incredible.
Start using it. It's even more impressive in person. We've used Maxamet (Manix 2 LW) to cut through a braided steel cable, and it was still shaving sharp afterward.

Wait, what?!! Tell me you took a video!

What kind of cable was it?
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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby TomAiello » Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:29 am

The Meat man wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 9:12 am

Wait, what?!! Tell me you took a video!

What kind of cable was it?
Nope. It was an actual use, not a test. We had a jammed sliding power door on a mini van (2004 Toyota Sienna) at work, and one of my guys came over to me asking if I had something to cut the cable with (to unjam the door, although it also disabled the power opening function of the door). I gave him the knife out of my pocket, he cut the cable, and we kept on working.

I don't have a photo, but the cut off half of the cable is still on the vehicle, so I can measure it when I'm at the office later today.

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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby tps3443 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:26 pm

I cut on a constant basis at work. My knife is just about in my hand all day folded ready for more use. One day I was popping through plastic straps on pallets, and the last pallet strap was steel. My S110V cut through it pretty good with a little effort. But, it took the entire edge with it too lol 😂. I didn’t know it was steel until it was practically cut in half.

Anyways, I could see Maxamet being useful to me as a second knife in my pocket. As long as edge retention is there too.

I can push S110V for about 1-2 days with extreme sharpness. But it occasionally chips while cutting tougher things. A harder metal would save me some trouble for sure
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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby tps3443 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:28 pm

Also the Manix 2 Maxamet is a great deal at about $155. But I don’t think I want a Manix. FRN, or G10 doesn’t matter to me.

What do you guys think about this? I found one for $165.00. Will a Delica hold up to abuse like a PM2 will? 3” blade seems ok to me. Hap40 is similar to REX45 I suppose

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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby The Meat man » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:29 pm

tps3443 wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:28 pm
Also the Manix 2 Maxamet is a great deal at about $155. But I don’t think I want a Manix.

Where can you get the Manix Maxamet for $155?
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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby p_atrick » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:43 pm

tps3443 wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:28 pm
What do you guys think about this? I found one for $165.00. Will a Delica hold up to abuse like a PM2 will? 3” blade seems ok to me. Hap40 is similar to REX45 I suppose
If you really want to use Hap40, go get the Cutlery Shoppe Endura exclusive. You get a bigger blade of Hap40 (but no coating) for about $60 less.

https://cutleryshoppe.com/spyderco-c10z ... exclusive/

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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby Rutger » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:40 pm

REX 45 was ran at a much higher hardness than HAP40 is. And if you want a HAP40 delica i'd go for this one:
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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby TomAiello » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:47 pm

tps3443 wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:26 pm
Anyways, I could see Maxamet being useful to me as a second knife in my pocket. As long as edge retention is there too.
Maxamet has better edge retention than s110v. It's the most wear resistant steel I've ever used by a good margin (still waiting to try Rex121 though).

It's super wear resistant and above average on toughness. It's stainlessness that it doesn't have.

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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby Woodpuppy » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:48 pm

^^ that Delica wharnie is awesome, I’d second that recommendation. It is easy to get real sharp, but I don’t think it’s as tough as rex45. I see hap40 being compared more with M4, not rex45. I wonder how tough maxamet is to sharpen
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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby The Meat man » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:23 pm

Woodpuppy wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:48 pm
^^ that Delica wharnie is awesome, I’d second that recommendation. It is easy to get real sharp, but I don’t think it’s as tough as rex45. I see hap40 being compared more with M4, not rex45. I wonder how tough maxamet is to sharpen

FWIW I have not found Maxamet particularly difficult to sharpen. It takes a bit longer for me than other steels. For context, I sharpened it freehand on SiC Japanese water stones.
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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby Woodpuppy » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:50 pm

I’m a pretty dedicated sharpmaker user. Ive never used a water stone.
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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby EngDevGr3 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:53 pm

A bit of random info. In Michael Christy's rex 45 video, someone commented that they rockwell tested their Para 2 rex 45 and got 66.5 hrc. This matches the number Sal mentioned a while back.

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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby tps3443 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:21 pm

EngDevGr3 wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:53 pm
A bit of random info. In Michael Christy's rex 45 video, someone commented that they rockwell tested their Para 2 rex 45 and got 66.5 hrc. This matches the number Sal mentioned a while back.
Wow that is crazy! What is Spyderco S110V hardness typically ran at?

So, Could we say that REX45 is kinda like a stainless Maxamet or close to it?
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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby tps3443 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:23 pm

I’m sharpening with diamonds on a Wicked Edge, I really like a challenge. I really don’t mind how hard anything is to sharpen. Maybe if I was free handing I suppose. If I could ^ lol
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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby The Meat man » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:29 pm

tps3443 wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:21 pm
EngDevGr3 wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:53 pm
A bit of random info. In Michael Christy's rex 45 video, someone commented that they rockwell tested their Para 2 rex 45 and got 66.5 hrc. This matches the number Sal mentioned a while back.
Wow that is crazy! What is Spyderco S110V hardness typically ran at?

So, Could we say that REX45 is kinda like a stainless Maxamet or close to it?

I've never tried out REX 45 but it isn't stainless. From what I've heard it sounds like it's about as corrosion resistant as M4 or Maxamet.
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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby tps3443 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:31 pm

The Meat man wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:29 pm
tps3443 wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:21 pm
EngDevGr3 wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:53 pm
A bit of random info. In Michael Christy's rex 45 video, someone commented that they rockwell tested their Para 2 rex 45 and got 66.5 hrc. This matches the number Sal mentioned a while back.
Wow that is crazy! What is Spyderco S110V hardness typically ran at?

So, Could we say that REX45 is kinda like a stainless Maxamet or close to it?

I've never tried out REX 45 but it isn't stainless. From what I've heard it sounds like it's about as corrosion resistant as M4 or Maxamet.
Ok I dunno why I thought it was stainless for some reason.
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Re: REX45 vs. CPM 4V

Postby ZrowsN1s » Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:27 pm

The Meat man wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:29 pm
tps3443 wrote:
Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:28 pm
Also the Manix 2 Maxamet is a great deal at about $155. But I don’t think I want a Manix.

Where can you get the Manix Maxamet for $155?
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