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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby silvershade255 » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:47 pm

I'd love to see a new ethnic series knife based off what I know as a hmong knife, really its just a common design throughout se Asia.

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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby knivesandbooks » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:54 pm

silvershade255 wrote:
Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:47 pm
I'd love to see a new ethnic series knife based off what I know as a hmong knife, really its just a common design throughout se Asia.

https://goo.gl/images/UNxHQ3
That would be a cool blade shape scaled down to a folder.
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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby Vivi » Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:01 pm

I've been talking with a few makers and it looks like I'll be getting my design made sometime between now and xmas!
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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby The Meat man » Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:53 pm

Vivi wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:01 pm
I've been talking with a few makers and it looks like I'll be getting my design made sometime between now and xmas!

This will be very interesting Vivi. I look forward to hearing more about it once you get the knife in hand.
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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby SpyderEdgeForever » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:52 pm

I want to see the people on the forum with professional butcher experience design a line of Spyderco heavy-use butcher knives.

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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby Woodpuppy » Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:53 pm

How about a 22” long, 3” wide two-handed chopper made of 3V? :D
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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby SpyderEdgeForever » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:44 am

Woodpuppy wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:53 pm
How about a 22” long, 3” wide two-handed chopper made of 3V? :D
That sounds like some knife! But would 3V rust out easilly?

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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby SpyderEdgeForever » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:45 am

Surf Gringo: I want to see more designs by you, with Salt based knives in the 3.5 inch blade length range, folders and fixed.

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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby spyderwolf » Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:28 am

Vivi wrote:
Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:14 am
Here is my design....

The Spyderco Companion

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The Companion is the newest fixed blade from Spyderco. Designed by forum member "Vivi," the Companion is meant to be an every day carry. The design is as compact as possible while retaining a full sized knife feel. The scales are fully contoured linen Micarta, with a shape meant to adapt to any hand size. The deep integral guard and generous palm swell ensure a secure grip in any conditions.

The blade is full flat ground from 2mm stock for unrivaled cutting performance. The M4 blade exhibits excellent toughness and edge retention. The leaf shape blade features a distinctive negative angle, giving the user enhanced leverage while slicing. The spine is fully radiused with no jimping for all day working comfort.

The Companion comes complete with a fold-over style boltaron sheath & Spyderco G-clip. Alternatively, a chain can be attached to the bottom two rivets, allowing the Companion to function as a neck knife. The hollow pin at the rear end of the handle functions as a lanyard hole. At a mere 3.1oz with sheath, the Companion is meant to be by your side at all times.


Here's some additional photos.


The companion next to two fixed blades it drew inspiration from:

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In hand photos:

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Compared to a Pacific Salt:

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An idea of what it would look like on my belt:

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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby Vivi » Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:40 am

Nope. The idea for the thread was to post a completely new and original design that you would propose if you had the chance to design your own Spyderco. These are unexisting designs made for fun.

Didn't exactly take off as intended.
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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby jasonstone20 » Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:18 am

I would have a line of knives. Military, Paramilitary 2, Para 3, Police, Endura, Delica, Resilience, Tenacious/Raven 2/Polestar, Ambitious, with full height hollow grinds, 0.010" behind the edge, 10* DPS with 15* DPS microbevel. Steel options would be group 1: (8Cr13MoV/AUS 8, 9Cr18MoV/BD1/440B/GIN 1, 52100 or 1095 @ 64HRC), group 2 (SG2, CTS B75P, VG-10, BD1N, S30V/S35VN), group 3 (Nitrobe77, AEB-L @ 62 HRC. Nitro-V @ 64 HRC, LC200N).

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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby sal » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:21 am

Hi Jason,

I've been nagging Cliff for a collaboration for years. Can't get him to bite. I think it wold be a fun project. Maybe you can help? He can tell me what he thinks and I can turn it into a model. His brain, my hands?

Also, regarding the high hollow. I agree with you that it might be the most efficient cutting tool. Chris Reeve has always liked his high hollow.
The high hollow keeps the blade thin for a long space and what it gives up in strength, it makes up for having that thin blade at and near the edge. Certainly better for skinning. Like the Hamaguri (convex), the geometry of a blade has much more depth than is originally perceived. The reason is the friction alongside the blade in a cut.

SSssooo...for the purpose of discussion, Let's pick a model and make a high hollow? Whatchathink?

(May be better in another thread?)

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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby sal » Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:24 am

Vivi wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 6:40 am
Nope. The idea for the thread was to post a completely new and original design that you would propose if you had the chance to design your own Spyderco. These are unexisting designs made for fun.

Didn't exactly take off as intended.
I also agree. We would not be interested in making a knife similar to what another company is making. It's the outside of the box, pushing the envelope that rings my bell.

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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby Ngati Pom » Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:33 pm

A folding Nesmuk, slightly negative blade angle, stop lock, open back, sculpted or rounded scales, material to be decided.
Would the Hamaguri grind have any advantage for a Nesmuk style blade? Otherwise a high hollow. In BD1 or BD1N. Please :) .
Just realised this sounds like the Parata :D , not my intention at all, I was thinking slightly more traditional looking blade and handle.
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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby Vivi » Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:11 pm

Ngati Pom wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:33 pm
A folding Nesmuk, slightly negative blade angle, stop lock, open back, sculpted or rounded scales, material to be decided.
Would the Hamaguri grind have any advantage for a Nesmuk style blade? Otherwise a high hollow. In BD1 or BD1N. Please :) .
Just realised this sounds like the Parata :D , not my intention at all, I was thinking slightly more traditional looking blade and handle.
Have you seen the Condor Neonecker? I thought about picking one up.

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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby Ngati Pom » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:42 am

Thanks Vivi. That I like, slightly slimmer blade than I was imagining, but quite close. Like the micarta too.
Now to get a folding version too... :)
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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby 500Nitro » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:51 am

$60 for that, interesting.

Reminds me of a cross between a Green River skinner and a Green River sheep skinner.
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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby jasonstone20 » Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:53 pm

Sal,
I think a Para-Military 2 would work. Maybe a left-handed model or a button like on the Spyderco Smock, to help with ergo's, as the right-handed PM2 can have a hot spot where the lock release is.

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I forgot to add M4 as a steel I would like.

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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby Dingo » Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:13 pm

Could never resist a decent nessmuk.

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Re: Sal asks you to design a Spyderco.

Postby ugaarguy » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:06 pm

sal wrote:
Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:21 am
Hi Jason,

I've been nagging Cliff for a collaboration for years. Can't get him to bite. I think it wold be a fun project. Maybe you can help? He can tell me what he thinks and I can turn it into a model. His brain, my hands?

Also, regarding the high hollow. I agree with you that it might be the most efficient cutting tool. Chris Reeve has always liked his high hollow.
The high hollow keeps the blade thin for a long space and what it gives up in strength, it makes up for having that thin blade at and near the edge. Certainly better for skinning. Like the Hamaguri (convex), the geometry of a blade has much more depth than is originally perceived. The reason is the friction alongside the blade in a cut.

SSssooo...for the purpose of discussion, Let's pick a model and make a high hollow? Whatchathink?

(May be better in another thread?)

sal
Sal, I think a high hollow grind XHP blade with the current 3.2mm stock in a Native 5 LW could lead to interesting comparisons against the current Chaparral LW with its thinner stock FFG XHP blade. Or perhaps a Sage with current 3mm stock, but the switch to high hollow grind XHP to put against the Chap's FFG 2mm stock XHP. Doing that would remove further variables since they'd both be made at the Taichung plant with all the same heat treat and finishing processes.


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