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Taxes on online knife purchase

Postby Candyman » Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:09 am

So I bought a Sprig last night from BladeHQ. When I went to go check out I noticed a $10.50 tax fee. :eek: This is definitely something new to me. It was 7% so I’m guessing it has to do with a new law within my state. I’ve heard other people talk about this recently but up until last night it did not affect me. Are all states in the US that have taxes moving this direction? I also buy a lot of knives for people overseas so this will ultimately affect their price as well. Unfortunately I am very ignorant when it comes to taxing so that’s why I came to you folks to see how this works.

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Re: Taxes on online knife purchase

Postby swigert » Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:14 am

You got it. Online retailers can collect tax now.

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Re: Taxes on online knife purchase

Postby sal » Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:57 am

More like online dealers are required to charge and pay tax.

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Re: Taxes on online knife purchase

Postby TomAiello » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:11 am

swigert wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:14 am
You got it. Online retailers can collect tax now.
It's a requirement.

Basically, state governments (mostly California, actually) pushed it through so they could collect tax from companies like eBay and Amazon, because they felt that they were losing out on a lot of sales tax revenues that they felt entitled to.

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Re: Taxes on online knife purchase

Postby 500Nitro » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:38 am

California and other states aren't the only ones.

The Australian Govt is making on line sellers worldwide collect 10% GST (VAT) for it. So it's not a US only thing.
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Re: Taxes on online knife purchase

Postby archangel » Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:53 am

What's 7%? VAT in Germany is 19%, and to my knowledge there are a few European countries that charge even more. And it's always collected by all shops, stationary and online, no exclusion.
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Re: Taxes on online knife purchase

Postby 500Nitro » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:03 am

Because Govts are losing out it will be worldwide for every major country soon.
The heyday of lower cost purchasing on line and avoiding taxes is over.
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Re: Taxes on online knife purchase

Postby JDWY » Wed Oct 24, 2018 9:11 am

TomAiello wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:11 am
swigert wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:14 am
You got it. Online retailers can collect tax now.
It's a requirement.

Basically, state governments (mostly California, actually) pushed it through so they could collect tax from companies like eBay and Amazon, because they felt that they were losing out on a lot of sales tax revenues that they felt entitled to.
Actually the one that designed and introduced the internet tax bill was senator Mike Enzi here in Wyoming. He's had it in the works for about 3 years now. Not that it did any good, but for the first time in my life I voted for whoever Dem was running against him.

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Re: Taxes on online knife purchase

Postby tvenuto » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:42 am

You were always supposed to report online purchases and file the sales tax. No one did this, of course. I mean if you don’t mind paying sales tax (in principle) when you buy locally I’m not sure why you’d mind online. Sales tax is probably the most avoidable tax there is. Obviously it would be nice not to be taxed at all but that’s not too realistic if you want to participate in society.

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Postby Rutger » Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:51 am

I've always been amazed how long the no online tax in the US already lasted. Besides the point if you like taxes or not it is just plain unfair versus the normal retail shops. And there is so much money going around in online sales now that the government is really missing out big time.

Over here (Dutch) we pay 21% VAT on luxury goods, online or not. And if i shop at an EU member state store i will also have to pay tax. If i import something from outside the EU it has to go through customs and taxes will be collected too. No way to escape it. Been like this for ages.
Sometimes i wish taxes were lower or avoided, but i also know it pays for a lot of good stuff in society.

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Re: Taxes on online knife purchase

Postby Candyman » Wed Oct 24, 2018 12:05 pm

Good responses. Thanks everyone.

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Re: Taxes on online knife purchase

Postby The Deacon » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:29 am

I think it's great because it levels the playing field a bit. Heck, it might make buying from an internet dealer in your own state, who always had to charge you tax, competitive with dealers in other states. And, as tvenuto pointed out, you've either been reporting non-taxed internet purchases or breaking the law. I can honestly say I've paid more in "use tax" than income tax every year I've lived in SC. So, for me at least, it will eliminate the need to keep track of which online purchases were not taxed next year.
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Re: Taxes on online knife purchase

Postby 500Nitro » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:45 am

Agree re levelling the playing field.
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Re: Taxes on online knife purchase

Postby Woodpuppy » Tue Nov 06, 2018 8:34 pm

I’d have less frustration about taxes if government were capable of being responsible with the money. Mostly the .gov works against citizens towards more control. They couldn’t waste it faster if they indiscriminately burned it. So if cashing in on all this wonderful lost theft I mean revenue means they step back, balance the budget, and reduce taxes in other areas, great! But I expect them to keep reaching into our pockets for more, always more.
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Re: Taxes on online knife purchase

Postby Mom3ntuM » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:34 am

Norway has 25% vat, we win :(
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Re: Taxes on online knife purchase

Postby Woodpuppy » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:54 pm

Jeepers!
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Re: Taxes on online knife purchase

Postby Slash » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:07 am

Didn't the government already collect tax on the materials used to make the knife?
I don't think we should be taxed on any goods from a retailer for stuff that tax was already collected on.

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Re: Taxes on online knife purchase

Postby Philo Beddoe » Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:04 pm

tvenuto wrote:
Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:42 am
You were always supposed to report online purchases and file the sales tax. No one did this, of course. I mean if you don’t mind paying sales tax (in principle) when you buy locally I’m not sure why you’d mind online. Sales tax is probably the most avoidable tax there is. Obviously it would be nice not to be taxed at all but that’s not too realistic if you want to participate in society.

These 5 states have no sales tax-

Alaska
Delaware
Montana
New Hampshire
Oregon

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Re: Taxes on online knife purchase

Postby Sharp Guy » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:03 pm

Slash wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:07 am
Didn't the government already collect tax on the materials used to make the knife?
I don't think we should be taxed on any goods from a retailer for stuff that tax was already collected on.
??????

We're talking about sales tax here. With the exception of the states noted above, we pay it for everything that's purchased at the retail level.
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