Californian cancer warning
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The fact that Cali is always the most divisive state really speaks volumes about those who run it.
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Agreed!!!
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If you were to speculate, do you think any judge with even the least bit of rational thought would obviously throw out such a nonsensical case, of someone suing a company over that claim, or, in this day and age, there would be a potential danger of them siding against the company? That would be in the same league with someone suing Stanley Tools because they accidentally hit their thumb when using one of their hammers to hammer a nail.
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Not true. There was a direct, obvious, link between the temperature of the hot coffee and the burn. Whether McDonalds or the customers ineptitude was at fault, was the only question. Showing that a person's Spyderco Sharpmaker was the sole, or even a significant, source of exposure to whatever chemicals it contains would be difficult. Proving those particular chemicals were specifically responsible for their tumor or three headed child when many products in the average home contain something that California considers either carcinogenic or mutagenic would be virtually impossible.
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If we don't put the label on the product, any lawyer in CA can sue us. And trust me, they are lining up looking for prey.
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A trace amount of a chemical in a product is enough to trigger a proposition 65 warning label, doesn't necessarily mean that the product will cause cancer, or reproductive harm. I wouldn't worry about it.
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Bakeries and coffee shops in California have to display Prop 65 warnings because baked and roasted foods contain chemicals known to cause cancer. They used to have the same warning on bags of potato chips before manufacturers figured out ways to torture their production process to sidestep the regulation. I don't know if places selling french fries or freshly made chips have to display the warning, but I wouldn't be surprised.
Also cars and airplanes.
It's the sort of warning that defeats its own purpose. It's the parable of The Boy who Cried "Cancer!". If things like coffee, bread, french fries, automobiles, airplanes, and even Disneyland itself are forced into carring warning labels, warnings lose credibility. The Californian cancer warning often says more about the state of California than it does about the product it's trying to warn you about.
Also cars and airplanes.
It's the sort of warning that defeats its own purpose. It's the parable of The Boy who Cried "Cancer!". If things like coffee, bread, french fries, automobiles, airplanes, and even Disneyland itself are forced into carring warning labels, warnings lose credibility. The Californian cancer warning often says more about the state of California than it does about the product it's trying to warn you about.
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^Exactly.
The warnings are defeating themselves. They have become so ubiquitous that nobody pays any attention to them anyway.
The warnings are defeating themselves. They have become so ubiquitous that nobody pays any attention to them anyway.
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The State of California (my state) has so many cancer causing items in it that I think it's suitable to say that entering the State of California may cause cancer due to exposure to all of the cancer causing items that reside within the state.
Therefore we must find a very large cancer warning label and cover the entire state with it as soon as possible.
Prop.65 warning: California may cause Cancer.
Therefore we must find a very large cancer warning label and cover the entire state with it as soon as possible.
Prop.65 warning: California may cause Cancer.
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Friends, with the best of my intentions I will tell you that they have very strange laws on the other side of the ocean. Greetings and I hope not to offend anyone seriously!
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Warning: reading California's crazy laws may cause a brain tumor. (Or at least make you scratch your head)ZrowsN1s wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:13 pmThe State of California (my state) has so many cancer causing items in it that I think it's suitable to say that entering the State of California may cause cancer due to exposure to all of the cancer causing items that reside within the state.
Therefore we must find a very large cancer warning label and cover the entire state with it as soon as possible.
Prop.65 warning: California may cause Cancer.
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Last time I looked (it's been a few years), 50% of the world's lawyers practiced in the USA, and 70% of the nations lawyers practiced in California, meaning that 35% of the lawyers _on Earth_ practice in California.
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Ugh. It’s a proposition law. My apologies to the world. CA has this process where citizens can make laws in the form of a proposition. It’s been nothing but a scam for years. Every year we have everyone from lawyers, doctors, to the garbage man trying to pass some law that will make them rich. They almost never pass. They are always poorly written and have unintended consequences. I vote no on all of them and have for years. And you can complain about CA but most of these propositions are written by people on other states.
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Your opinion. Mine is that it is also absurd and virtually impossible to blame the coffee, or McDonald's, for the the fact that you spilled it, and burned yourself. But that's what happened. As Sal said, there are probably lawyers just waiting to take any case, and try to prove damages, and sometimes they win.The Deacon wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:09 am
Not true. There was a direct, obvious, link between the temperature of the hot coffee and the burn. Whether McDonalds or the customers ineptitude was at fault, was the only question. Showing that a person's Spyderco Sharpmaker was the sole, or even a significant, source of exposure to whatever chemicals it contains would be difficult. Proving those particular chemicals were specifically responsible for their tumor or three headed child when many products in the average home contain something that California considers either carcinogenic or mutagenic would be virtually impossible.
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Too late! Man, I wish I had discovered this forum sooner.
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this came in my Custom Shop Buck 110... :confused: :p
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cabfrank wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:42 pmYour opinion. Mine is that it is also absurd and virtually impossible to blame the coffee, or McDonald's, for the the fact that you spilled it, and burned yourself. But that's what happened. As Sal said, there are probably lawyers just waiting to take any case, and try to prove damages, and sometimes they win.The Deacon wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:09 am
Not true. There was a direct, obvious, link between the temperature of the hot coffee and the burn. Whether McDonalds or the customers ineptitude was at fault, was the only question. Showing that a person's Spyderco Sharpmaker was the sole, or even a significant, source of exposure to whatever chemicals it contains would be difficult. Proving those particular chemicals were specifically responsible for their tumor or three headed child when many products in the average home contain something that California considers either carcinogenic or mutagenic would be virtually impossible.
I agree that blaming McDonalds, rather than the customer's own clumsiness, was absurd but I still say that it's patently obvious that the coffee, and only the coffee, caused the burn while trying to establish the chemical or chemicals in one specific product as the primary cause of a persons cancer or birth defects would be much harder. Just think back on how hard it was for smokers to win lawsuits against cigarette companies, Vietnam era vets to win them against Dow Chemical for Agent Orange, or the folks up in Niagara Falls to win them against Hooker Chemical for Love Canal.
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