Maxamet and the future

[husq2100]

As far as the PM2 goes, I dont see the Rex45 being a replacement as it was a Sprint and the Maxamet ment to be standard line up.

Fingers crossed the PM2 Maxamet returns for good.

[husq2100]

Classic meme work Deadboxhere , too funny.

But even some of us got in on the pre-order (earlyish) and still missed out

[The Meat man]

...Its in my top three favorite steels.

The other two being Cru-Wear (I'm guessing) and...?

[Deadboxhero]

...Its in my top three favorite steels.

The other two being Cru-Wear (I'm guessing) and...?

Haha I like that.

But K390 needs some love too :D

[ferider]

Don't get me wrong, I like my Maxamets (2 users and 2 backups):



But Rex 45 is the closest to Maxamet hardness Spyderco has come so far.

Per Jim (viewtopic.php?t=77535 ):
MAXAMET - Spyderco MT-24 - 67-68 HRC
ZDP-189 - Endura 4 - HRC 65
CPM S110V - Spyderco Military - 63-64 HRC
CPM 10V - Spyderco/Farid K2 - 63 HRC
CPM M4 - Spyderco Gayle Bradley - 62.5 HRC
: : :

Per Sal for Rex 45: (viewtopic.php?t=79819)

Tom said they averaged 66.5
sal

Both steels have high hot hardness (Tungsten and Cobalt), where the main difference is Molybdenum in Rex 45, missing in Maxamet (guessing this is good for grain and corrosion resistance, but I'd rather have steel experts talk to that).



Anyways, all this geek stuff aside, PM2 Rex 45 and Maxamet "feel" the same to me. Cool to have knives that can cut steel cables, and are easy to hand-sharpen. I'm most excited about the upcoming Rex 45 Military, which will be unique in its combination of size and hardness.

Cheers,

Roland.

[bearfacedkiller]

Similar hardness, sure. There is more of a difference than the moly though. Maxamet has twice the tungsten and twice the vanadium. That is no small difference. I unfortunately have not had time to really use my Rex45 yet as I have been busy lately and have bought to many new knives lately.

[Deadboxhero]

I disagree Roland, Maxamet is a completely different animal.

The Maxamet edge has alot more edge aggression, also there are more nuisances with Sharpening Maxamet. The Rex 45 gets very keen, yet feels more empty at the Apex if compared directly to Maxamet at the same edge finish, even at 3k.

Rex 45 is fun though because it has more edge toughness and is easier to sharpen.

If we put them head to head, the Maxamet will out cut Rex. Maxamet will also cut with more ferocity with a toothy edge.
Maxamet has no equal in properties except Rex121

If they were cars

Maxamet = more horsepower, higher top speed
Rex = better handling, faster acceration

I'd put Rex 45 a tier under k390 and other A11 class steels also.

[sal]

Hi MasterDiver,

Welcome to our forum and thanx for sharing our thoughts,

Maxamet is the alloy that is used to make the rollers in the rolling mills. It is not your normal blade steel. It is very difficult to work with and fallout is high.

sal

[ferider]

I disagree Roland, Maxamet is a completely different animal.

The Maxamet edge has alot more edge aggression, also there are more nuisances with Sharpening Maxamet. The Rex 45 gets very keen, yet feels more empty at the Apex if compared directly to Maxamet at the same edge finish, even at 3k.

: : :

I'd put Rex 45 a tier under k390 and other A11 class steels also.

Thanks, BBB, and I believe you. I'm probably missing out on these differences as I pragmatically sharpen all my knives the same way, as I've done it for many years, free-hand on a Japanese wet-stone.

That being said, offer me a Military in A11, and I will buy 2. :) Less fond of K390, as my P4 rusts just by me looking at it. Again, this might be me and how I use and clean the knives.

Roland.

[Deadboxhero]

Nice, what stones and edges you rocking Roland?

[Deadboxhero]

Oh snap!

[ferider]

Nice, what stones and edges you rocking Roland?

Too many knives to list, here, only a couple of brands though. To give you a flavor, here are the two knives of the day:



The loktite on the Manix just finished curing. Got a new stone 6 months ago, this is a MATSUNAGA BISUI # 700.

Cheers,

Roland.

PS: love the memes.

[Rutger]

Or we just skip Maxamet and move on to REX 121. I'd like to extend my REX family.

[Deadboxhero]

Nice, what stones and edges you rocking Roland?

Too many knives to list, here, only a couple of brands though. To give you a flavor, here are the two knives of the day:



The loktite on the Manix just finished curing. Got a new stone 6 months ago, this is a MATSUNAGA BISUI # 700.

Cheers,

Roland.

PS: love the memes.

Roland, Those Natty stones are sexy. That one looks killer. I feel though that synthetic stones are the way to go on super steels, harder, tougher abrasive grains that have sharper facets that still create sharp points when the grains break down.
This makes cleaner cuts, crisper edges, faster Sharpening.

I love the Natty stones though. Especially on single bevel high hardness, high carbon knives. For more alloy steels though I get too much burnishing (moving, rubbing, not cutting) it still polishes high alloy due to adhesive wear but the edge is less crisp, also the feedback is low and the metal in the swarf is absent because it's not cutting effectively.

[TomAiello]

Too many knives to list, here, only a couple of brands though. To give you a flavor, here are the two knives of the day:

I'm really digging your Manix scales (the blue and the orange). Where did you find those?

[Naperville]

...Its in my top three favorite steels.

The other two being Cru-Wear (I'm guessing) and...?

Haha I like that.

But K390 needs some love too :D

Speaking of K390, has there ever been a Military in K390? I'd buy one.

[Naperville]

But Rex 45 is the closest to Maxamet hardness Spyderco has come so far.



Anyways, all this geek stuff aside, PM2 Rex 45 and Maxamet "feel" the same to me. Cool to have knives that can cut steel cables, and are easy to hand-sharpen. I'm most excited about the upcoming Rex 45 Military, which will be unique in its combination of size and hardness.

Cheers,
Roland.

Maxamet is a beast!

[MasterDiver]

Even though rex45 has helped bridge the gap between maxamet and all other production blades, maxamet is still in a class of its own.
With my examples, rex45 is for sure a little harder than everything except zdp and maxamet. It's close or equal to zdp, but noticeably behind maxamet.
I hope both maxamet and rex45 are around for a long time.

I think you are right on the money - I am getting all the Maxamet I can - There is something special about this steel - it is in a class of its own.

Cheers,

Master Diver

[MasterDiver]

Hi MasterDiver,

Welcome to our forum and thanx for sharing our thoughts,

Maxamet is the alloy that is used to make the rollers in the rolling mills. It is not your normal blade steel. It is very difficult to work with and fallout is high.

sal

Hi Sal

Thank you for the welcome - great fan of your knives and designs - ALL knives will se use :D

Thanks for making knives in such cutting edge steels where other companies have thrown in the towel (ZT 0888)

Hope to see a Military in Maxamet in the future :spyder: :) until them my Military in s90V CF TI will do :D

Cheers,

Master Diver

[MasterDiver]

Oh snap!

Danish Kim Kold is bigger :D


Thanks for GREAT vids on youtube.

Cheers,

Master Diver