52100 / CF Para 3

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Re: 52100 / CF Para 3

Postby steelcity16 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:04 pm

Pretty sweet knife. I have the 52100/PPCF Military and its amazing. Going to pass on the Para 3, but I really want a Native in this combo.
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Re: 52100 / CF Para 3

Postby hackzogan » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:14 pm

I'm going to have to hide mine for a few months. Everyone was so high on the 52100 PM2 I had to try it out on the Para 3.

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Re: 52100 / CF Para 3

Postby blueblur » Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:22 pm

Just ordered one.

All these great knives dropping at the same time are going to put me on a ramon diet! Love the 52100 PM2 so I'm really looking forward to this one.

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Re: 52100 / CF Para 3

Postby Crux » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:27 pm

blueblur wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:22 pm
Just ordered one.

All these great knives dropping at the same time are going to put me on a ramon diet! Love the 52100 PM2 so I'm really looking forward to this one.
You ain't lying as I'm been sneaking Para 3's through for a while but I'm starting to get investigated. The Misses is thinking she might have seen a few knives came through the mail lately. Obviously I was totally honest and explained these were knives that had been damaged and were being returned after repair. This worked amazingly for about 20 minutes, until the pressure was too much for me to bear. Are you aware that facials and whatever cost a LOT more than a good Spyderco? Are you aware that argument doesn't work at the F ALL?

I must go underground. he he
Can you find it and can it cut? :eek:

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Re: 52100 / CF Para 3

Postby Woodpuppy » Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:30 am

Don’t question her purchases; yours are in question because they might limit hers! :p

Q: How many knives can you carry?
A: well I have four pockets. (Forgot about the fifth...)
She laughs at me.
“You’re so weird.”

However she gets real grumpy when another longbow shows up!
WANT: para 3 satin M4 CF

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Re: 52100 / CF Para 3

Postby FK » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:33 am

Her = How many knives do you need,, how many can you carry?


Him = How many shoes are in your closet,, how many can you wear at one time?

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Re: 52100 / CF Para 3

Postby camvdcs » Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:18 am

I already have the Military & Paramilitary 2 in 52100. I went ahead and ordered the Para 3 in 52100 to complete the set. :)

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Re: 52100 / CF Para 3

Postby Strider » Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:18 pm

steelcity16 wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:04 pm
Pretty sweet knife. I have the 52100/PPCF Military and its amazing. Going to pass on the Para 3, but I really want a Native in this combo.
I'd bite on that combo.

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Re: 52100 / CF Para 3

Postby Extra330SC » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:24 pm

I really want to get a carbon fiber para 3 and there are still S90V P3s out there for under $200 bucks. What are the deciding factors if I don't want to buy both? Thank you for any insight. ....

James

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Re: 52100 / CF Para 3

Postby mgnmdngg » Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:12 pm

buy em both

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Re: 52100 / CF Para 3

Postby ZeroRange » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:14 pm

mgnmdngg wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:12 pm
buy em both
Lol that's usually the answer for watches too

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Re: 52100 / CF Para 3

Postby JonLeBlanc » Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:29 pm

Extra330SC wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:24 pm
I really want to get a carbon fiber para 3 and there are still S90V P3s out there for under $200 bucks. What are the deciding factors if I don't want to buy both? Thank you for any insight. ....

James
I’d s say the deciding factor is what you want in a blade steel. The S90V is a archetypal particle metallurgy, high-carbide, highly wear-resistant, stainless metal. It will hold its edge for a freakishly long time, but may be rather challenging to sharpen depending on your skill level and tools. 52100 is a low-alloy, high toughness, highly reactive and very simple carbon steel that will be much easier to sharpen to a RAZOR edge, but will not hold that edge quite as long. Of course, given how easy it is to sharpen, it doesn’t take much effort to restore that edge. It will corrode if not properly cared for, but I can say that even on the gulf coast I’m able to keep it clear. So again, the question is what’s best for you? I have knives in both steels and they are both fine materials. However I’m just in love with 52100. I’m not even really interested in stainless steels anymore because of it, and in fact I bought another 52100 Paramilitary just to hoard lol. My first one has a lovely patina and a silvery mirror finish on the edge bevel. I can’t recommend it highly enough!

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Re: 52100 / CF Para 3

Postby Mstach07 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:14 pm

Extra330SC wrote:
Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:36 pm
Rivers Edge has them too! I just can't say enough good things about their customer service!

James
^^ This ^^

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Re: 52100 / CF Para 3

Postby Extra330SC » Thu Aug 09, 2018 5:44 pm

JonLeBlanc wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 4:29 pm
Extra330SC wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:24 pm
I really want to get a carbon fiber para 3 and there are still S90V P3s out there for under $200 bucks. What are the deciding factors if I don't want to buy both? Thank you for any insight. ....

James
I’d s say the deciding factor is what you want in a blade steel. The S90V is a archetypal particle metallurgy, high-carbide, highly wear-resistant, stainless metal. It will hold its edge for a freakishly long time, but may be rather challenging to sharpen depending on your skill level and tools. 52100 is a low-alloy, high toughness, highly reactive and very simple carbon steel that will be much easier to sharpen to a RAZOR edge, but will not hold that edge quite as long. Of course, given how easy it is to sharpen, it doesn’t take much effort to restore that edge. It will corrode if not properly cared for, but I can say that even on the gulf coast I’m able to keep it clear. So again, the question is what’s best for you? I have knives in both steels and they are both fine materials. However I’m just in love with 52100. I’m not even really interested in stainless steels anymore because of it, and in fact I bought another 52100 Paramilitary just to hoard lol. My first one has a lovely patina and a silvery mirror finish on the edge bevel. I can’t recommend it highly enough!
Thank you very much for the detailed response to my question. ..exactly what I was looking for.

James

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Re: 52100 / CF Para 3

Postby JonLeBlanc » Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:34 pm

Oh you’re welcome, did I make things clearer? Maybe I’d add that S90V is a harder steel and that’s part of how it keeps it’s edge longer, while 52100 is tougher which means that it’ll “deform” before it chips or breaks. It’s toughness also allows one to maintain a thinner edge than otherwise possible, enhancing “sliciness.” Some people find that steels with a high carbide content like S90V tend to favor a coarser edge where the carbides at the very apex form a sort of micro-serration surface to aid in cutting. It will power through just about anything. On the flip side, I’ve had good results giving 52100 a finely polished edge that just slides effortlessly through materials. So like I said it all comes down to what you want and need your blade to do. Let me know what you choose once you’ve chosen the 52100! Haha just kidding (but not really...)

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Re: 52100 / CF Para 3

Postby Extra330SC » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:00 pm

JonLeBlanc wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:34 pm
Oh you’re welcome, did I make things clearer? Maybe I’d add that S90V is a harder steel and that’s part of how it keeps it’s edge longer, while 52100 is tougher which means that it’ll “deform” before it chips or breaks. It’s toughness also allows one to maintain a thinner edge than otherwise possible, enhancing “sliciness.” Some people find that steels with a high carbide content like S90V tend to favor a coarser edge where the carbides at the very apex form a sort of micro-serration surface to aid in cutting. It will power through just about anything. On the flip side, I’ve had good results giving 52100 a finely polished edge that just slides effortlessly through materials. So like I said it all comes down to what you want and need your blade to do. Let me know what you choose once you’ve chosen the 52100! Haha just kidding (but not really...)
Both of your post are full of information and are very helpful. I've been watching (videos from Cliff Stamp and Mike Christy ) and reading up as much info as possible of the different steels used in spyderco knives. I find it fascinating how it all comes together and what each composition offers . Thank you again...

James

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Re: 52100 / CF Para 3

Postby JonLeBlanc » Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:35 pm

Extra330SC wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:00 pm
JonLeBlanc wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:34 pm
Oh you’re welcome, did I make things clearer? Maybe I’d add that S90V is a harder steel and that’s part of how it keeps it’s edge longer, while 52100 is tougher which means that it’ll “deform” before it chips or breaks. It’s toughness also allows one to maintain a thinner edge than otherwise possible, enhancing “sliciness.” Some people find that steels with a high carbide content like S90V tend to favor a coarser edge where the carbides at the very apex form a sort of micro-serration surface to aid in cutting. It will power through just about anything. On the flip side, I’ve had good results giving 52100 a finely polished edge that just slides effortlessly through materials. So like I said it all comes down to what you want and need your blade to do. Let me know what you choose once you’ve chosen the 52100! Haha just kidding (but not really...)
Both of your post are full of information and are very helpful. I've been watching (videos from Cliff Stamp and Mike Christy ) and reading up as much info as possible of the different steels used in spyderco knives. I find it fascinating how it all comes together and what each composition offers . Thank you again...

James
Michael Christy is an inspiration, I wish I had a tenth of the skill he does (hence the reason I rely on easy to sharpen steels :rolleyes: )


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