C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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Re: C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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Hi Appler,

How many do you have? Are they all made by Klotzli? I don't know if you know it, but we made all of the blades for KLlotzli in Golden.

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Re: C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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I thought Appler was just collecting information from pics on eBay. Man, I would love to have all of those he listed!

If blades were all made in Golden, were the handles and assembly done in Europe or Golden?

Interesting stuff. Thanks!
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Re: C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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Hey, Sal.

I, unfortunately, have only one. I managed a store for a now-shuttered mid-Atlantic mall cutlery chain and personally sold perhaps 12-15 of these when they were new, which was not a small feat given that they were almost $700 in todays dollars by the end of the run. But there was absolutely nothing like it at the time--without actually being in the knife business, there is just no way for the average person to understand how much of a leap this knife was for a "production" knife. There was nothing even close from any manufacturer. I was fascinated by it, but too broke to have one. I sold my father one, and one day years later it showed up in a package on my birthday. As the only knife Spyderco has produced that I am aware of where every one was serial numbered (maybe the original bone Horn?), the variations have obviously also fascinated me.

Thanks for always innovating.
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Re: C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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#949, PS blade, matte scales, bug on clip, then U.S. patent info, then SWISSMADE. Blade has Spyderco, swissmade, then Walker
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Re: C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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Maybe it's time for a carbon fiber sprint with a wire clip and an exotic steel?

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Man, Sal sure knows how to keep us biting!
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Re: C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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sal wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:56 pm
Maybe it's time for a carbon fiber sprint with a wire clip and an exotic steel?

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yes please.
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Re: C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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sal wrote:
Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:56 pm
Maybe it's time for a carbon fiber sprint with a wire clip and an exotic steel?

sal
Now we are talking!
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Re: C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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Dream knife absolutely
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Re: C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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If we can keep it under $200 street price, I would be very interested.
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Re: C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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Carbon fiber sprint with a wire clip and....Super Blue?!?! Count me in, baby. ****, I'd take any steel, honestly. :-)

And it needs a brother with nice matte titanium scales that'll look so cool loved-up after 20 years of use. Like an old Sebenza.

Accutronman, thanks for the contribution!
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Re: C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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I would prefer a stainless steel. I am pretty much done buying any steel that rusts or Patinas on a folder.
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Re: C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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@Appler, do you have a full list compiled somewhere? Maybe this is something to have put into the wiki now that spyderco took over.
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Re: C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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Full carbon fiber, not peel ply, rare steel, and make it a true collectible with the price reflecting the quality a la the original Jess Horn (C27) at $449.95.
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Re: C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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Hey, infinkc.

I had intended to let this get to a few more pages and then start a spreadsheet with all the variations. That's a good idea to transfer it over to the Wiki sometime.

The highest number I have seen is #1765, so there are at least that many out there. What we have documented here is just a drop in the bucket; I wonder where they all have settled? There weren't particularly "collectable" at the time (no Spyderco really was), so I wonder how many became users and were lost or forgotten about...
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Accutronman wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:26 pm
Full carbon fiber, not peel ply, rare steel, and make it a true collectible with the price reflecting the quality a la the original Jess Horn (C27) at $449.95.
Why not offer it at the actual price where it will land?
Perhaps i misunderstood you, but pricing a knife reflecting the quality of another model entirely (which i have heard had a clip that was a nightmare to produce, and attributed to the high cost of the C27) seems irrational and a less than great idea IMO.
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Re: C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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Larry_Mott wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:27 am
Accutronman wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:26 pm
Full carbon fiber, not peel ply, rare steel, and make it a true collectible with the price reflecting the quality a la the original Jess Horn (C27) at $449.95.
Why not offer it at the actual price where it will land?
Perhaps i misunderstood you, but pricing a knife reflecting the quality of another model entirely (which i have heard had a clip that was a nightmare to produce, and attributed to the high cost of the C27) seems irrational and a less than great idea IMO.
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I think that was the original sentiment. Make it a premium knife in honor of the original design/intent, and if it cost is high, so be it. At least that’s how I took it.
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Re: C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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Blade and Flame wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:16 am
Larry_Mott wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:27 am
Accutronman wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:26 pm
Full carbon fiber, not peel ply, rare steel, and make it a true collectible with the price reflecting the quality a la the original Jess Horn (C27) at $449.95.
Why not offer it at the actual price where it will land?
Perhaps i misunderstood you, but pricing a knife reflecting the quality of another model entirely (which i have heard had a clip that was a nightmare to produce, and attributed to the high cost of the C27) seems irrational and a less than great idea IMO.
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I think that was the original sentiment. Make it a premium knife in honor of the original design/intent, and if it cost is high, so be it. At least that’s how I took it.
Agreed. Perhaps i misinterpreted Accutronman's post.
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Re: C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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Blade and Flame wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:16 am
Larry_Mott wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:27 am
Accutronman wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:26 pm
Full carbon fiber, not peel ply, rare steel, and make it a true collectible with the price reflecting the quality a la the original Jess Horn (C27) at $449.95.
Why not offer it at the actual price where it will land?
Perhaps i misunderstood you, but pricing a knife reflecting the quality of another model entirely (which i have heard had a clip that was a nightmare to produce, and attributed to the high cost of the C27) seems irrational and a less than great idea IMO.
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I think that was the original sentiment. Make it a premium knife in honor of the original design/intent, and if it cost is high, so be it. At least that’s how I took it.
Exactly
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Re: C22 Walker/Klotzli Genome Project

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Accutronman wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 3:28 pm
Blade and Flame wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:16 am
Larry_Mott wrote:
Sat Feb 23, 2019 4:27 am
Accutronman wrote:
Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:26 pm
Full carbon fiber, not peel ply, rare steel, and make it a true collectible with the price reflecting the quality a la the original Jess Horn (C27) at $449.95.
Why not offer it at the actual price where it will land?
Perhaps i misunderstood you, but pricing a knife reflecting the quality of another model entirely (which i have heard had a clip that was a nightmare to produce, and attributed to the high cost of the C27) seems irrational and a less than great idea IMO.
'
I think that was the original sentiment. Make it a premium knife in honor of the original design/intent, and if it cost is high, so be it. At least that’s how I took it.
Exactly
Pleasde ignore my post then :) Sorry for getting you all wrong
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