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    Best way to Restore Heavilly Damaged SE knives?

    My Yellow SE Pacific Salt is in pretty terrible condition. One of the rearmost teeth is completely impacted to about half its original hight, and all have heavy, visible, rolls. No chips or edge fracture, just significant blunting. Ive been considering using a Dremel to grind off the damage and reform the scallops and teeth cleanly, but was not sure if this would be a good idea due to possible overheating. If anyone has any suggestions I'd be happy to hear them.

    My Lil Matriarch (sweet knife) is in similar, though not as extreme, condition.
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    I use these for serrated edges:

    http://www.dmtsharp.com/sharpeners/f...fold-serrated/

    Check video on right side of DMT page.

    But you could send them back to Spyderco and they'll sharpen it for somewhere around $5.00
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    Thanks setldown, but the amount of damage is beyond what I'd want to tackle with just DMT rods. Although I definitely could, it would just take a significant ammount of time compared to power tools I'll put a couple pictures up today to show everyone, hopefully the damage can be seen on camera
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    "The skeptic does not mean he who doubts, but he who investigates or researches, as opposed to he who asserts and thinks that he has found."
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    "The skeptic does not mean he who doubts, but he who investigates or researches, as opposed to he who asserts and thinks that he has found."
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    That's not too bad. The points are gonna be there unless you do some major regrinding on the serrations. For that I'd just send it back to Spyderco and let them do it. Otherwise a tapered diamond rod will get the rolls out real fast. Then just sharpen it however you normally do.

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    As a side note, the knife is an absolute beast. Not anywhere near what I'd call sharp but it still cuts. Easily separates stiff enough material and even saws through flame resistant woven fiberglass gasket faster than a fresh razor blade. Also, the yellow frn is great as a high-visibility color at work, and looks good dirty
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    That's not that bad at all. I have repaired worse with a tapered diamond hone- H1 is pretty easily sharpened. Or you can send it in to Spyderco. Odds are if you use a dremel tool, you will just make a mess of it.
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    Send it to Spyderco.

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    Seems to me with a set of white/brown crock sticks (let alone diamonds) you should be able to fix it. It will just take more time. Slow and steady wins the race .

    If you want to send it in to Spyderco I'm sure they can fix it right up and make it look pretty again. The downfall would be waiting for it return plus a bit of extra steel removed.
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    ^ Yup, pay for the Spyderco Spa Service. I sent them a beat up Police model with damaged serrations that I bought in a box of miscellaneous stuff, it turned out great.
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    I'd send it to meet its maker.
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    I thought you said it was damaged. I've restored edges a hundred times worse than that with a Byrd Duckfoot and a SharpMaker. If you don't have the patience to do it right or to wait for it to come back from Spyderco, throw it away and buy a new one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yablanowitz View Post
    I thought you said it was damaged.
    Yea that's what I was thinking.
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    I think you can fix that in 10-15 minutes with the sharpmaker and the brown rods. That thing looks like it's never been sharpened. Time to give it a little tlc on the sm is all. Nothing to it. I find my pacific salt does best if I hit it a few licks every couple of days. Only takes a few seconds and the knife stays razor sharp. Easier than letting it get completely dull and damaged and then having to spend the time getting it back IMO. Good luck.

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    Thanks for the replies everyone. I'm mainly referring to the two points that are folded/compacted down. I've sharpened the knife many times, and was asking about the two points shown in the picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RealKnifeUser View Post
    Thanks for the replies everyone. I'm mainly referring to the two points that are folded/compacted down. I've sharpened the knife many times, and was asking about the two points shown in the picture.
    Ah, my bad. I didn't see a microbevel or any rounding of the teeth on the front side so I thought maybe it hadn't been sharpened. I guess it's hard to tell from those pics. Anyway, I still believe you could repair most of that fairly easily with some medium rods and a bit of patience. Barring that, I would imagine spyderco would fix it up for you if you didn't mind being without the knife for a bit.

    Glad you are using and enjoying the knife. It's one of my all time favorites. Used mine for almost an hour today cleaning some big fish. Thing's a fricking chainsaw!

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    I would suggest sending it back to Spyderco to be re-serrated by warranty/repair. Once you have it back, maintain it constantly with the Sharpmaker.
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    I've got a few used SE dragonflies off ebay that had a fairly trashed edge. As far as the serrations that are blunted, you can't add any metal back. You can restore the serrations back to a sharp functioning edge though. This is what I did. First, tape off the blade right above the serration grinds (if you're worried about scratching the blade). Next, I take a small diameter, round shafted screwdriver and steel both sides of the edge to get the initial rolls out. Then I take a black marker and mark the inside of the scallops. Then I used an appropriate sized dowel wrapped with 1200 grit sandpaper and carefully file the large scallops until they are sharp. If you start to get unsure of your angle, re-apply the marker. I do the same with the smaller serrations using a smith's tapered diamond hone wrapped with the same 1200 grit sandpaper. I then finish it off with a narrow 1/4" loaded leather strop I made for serrated edges. This seems to have worked great for me, and the 1200 grit finish on the serrations look pretty good IMO. Just take your time. Or, you could just send it to Spyderco with $5 and have them do it.

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