Ladybug (Salt/SuperBlue/White SE), Native (FRN), Dragonfly (Salt/Orange/SuperBlue/G10), Lava (Blue), Ulize, Byrdwrench
Para-Military 2 (Digi-Cam/Green), Jester (Grey), Caly3/3.5 (CF), Domino (Blue), Stretch (SuperBlue), Spyderwrench
Schempp Tuff, Goddard OD, Mule (K390), Manix2 (CruWear), Sage 3 (CF), Vallotton, Techno, Spin (Blue Nishijin)
2013 Forum Native, Delica 4 (Damascus), Chokwe, Swick 3, Battlestation, Military (CruWear), Ti Salsa
You may just be getting unlucky and the bevel angle may be significantly different than the SM angles, thus you are not sharpening, you are reprofiling. If you don't have diamonds this can take a long time with high carbide steels. Get the diamond rods.
I'll only resharpen the factory edge if has flat spots. I've had a few brand new knives of many high-end brands show up with one or two flat spots on the edge, thus I'd have to pull out the Spyderco Sharpmaker and see if I could take care of them with the Spyderco Medium Tri-Angle Stones. Typically, they aren't abrasive enough, so out come the Spyderco Diamond Tri-Angle Stones. That does the trick.
Spyderco WTC #1044
I use until the factory edge wears out. IN my experience the factory edge has been excellent.
Spyderco Knives (in order of obtainment):
-Tenacious G-10, Combo edge
-Tasman Salt, PE
-Persistence Limited Edition Blue G-10, PE
-Pacific Salt, Black, PE
-Delica 4, Grey FRN, Emerson Wave, PE
-Karahawk collector's club #015, Custom Scales, Emerson Wave, PE
-DiAlex Junior, G10, PE
-Byrd SS Crossbill, PE, Custom Engraved
If they have a shallow, useless (in my opinion) edge, they get reground. Example - the Pingo. Fantastic knife, but was seriously shallow and not a good slicer at all with the factory edge. That's rare, though. I use the edge they come with and steel them occasionally - lasts a long time, except my Salt 1 that I use every day at work.
- best wishes, Jazz.
My SB Stretch had a nick in the blade that would hang on everything so it got reprofiled quickly. Other than that, most of my Spydercos have come out of the box very sharp. I think the sharpest were the 154CM Manix and ZDP Caly Jr.
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Manix2, Elmax MT13, M4 Manix2, ZDP Caly3, ZDP Caly Jr, SB Caly3.5, M390 Para2, Cruwear MT12, Techno, XHP MT16, South Fork, SB Caly3, Manix2 Ltwt, Salt I, 20CP Para2, Military Left Hand, Perrin PPT, Forum Native5, Squeak, Manix 83mm, 440V Military, Gayle Bradley, Swick3, Lil' Temperance, Cruwear Military, VG10 Jester, Terzuola SlipIt, XHP Native Ltwt, Domino, CPM154/S90V Para2, SB Stretch, D2 Para, Dfly2 Salt, Tasman Salt
I used to treasure a factory edge No longer, a little bit of knowledge and acquired skill has corrupted me
" Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler."
"Integrity is being good even if no one is watching"
It is not really a user if not reprofiled and sharpened.
I generally use the factory edge until it needs to be sharpened. There have been a couple of occasions where the factory edge wasn't that great so I sharpened immediately, but the majority are good enough to go straight to work.
On the Fence: Tuff, Techno
Latest arrivals: Des Horn, Dialex Junior, Super Blue Manbug
Unless I get something that does not cut well enough, I use the factory edge until it requires a touch up.
SFO Alumni/Authorized Spyderco Dealer (Startup)
Work EDC List
FRP: Nisjin Cricket PE, Manbug PE, Dragonfly PE
FLP: SS Cricket SE, byrd Flatbyrd CE
BRP: CF Military S90V
BLP: Forum S110V Native
Hello to All,
I really don't know if there is something about knives sold in the UK
In recent years, I have bought thirty-five knives (35) knives in the UK, including ten (10) Spyderco's (the other brands included Mora's, Benchmade's etc. - all 'good' brands)
Of these 35, two (2) came with a very satisfactory factory edge (these were an unbroken sealed boxed Spyderco Caly 3 in VG10 and a unbroken sealed boxed Spyderco Squeak in N690).
One (1) other knife had an OK edge (Enzo Trapper in D2).
The other 32 were in various shades of blunt to extremely blunt. The very last knife I bought (made by a famous brand of outdoor knives) was so blunt it couldn't cut my skin with moderate pressure.
So, in all those 32, I have had to reset the bevel and sharpen properly.
Now, the above seem at odds with posters in various forums, particularly in the USA, who seem to have rather better luck with the as-delivered factory edges
So, is this phenomenon peculiar to knives sold in the UK ?
I'll generally use a new knife with the factory edge until I have time to reproduce it to my liking. I generally prefer a pretty narrow edge with a micro bevel. The angle varies with steel and intended use, but my "standard" is 20/30.
On order: CF S110V Native, S110V Manix Lightweight
Current pocket hog: Domino
Next up: Bolstered Cocobolo Stretch???
I've seen a lot of variability in factory edges. I've also had many factory edges dull or chip too rapidly for my taste, maybe because the edge got overheated and lost temper, dunno. Now I just plan on reprofiling and resharpening everything. One benefit is that I can put the same edge on every knife and see how they compare - so I always reprofile to 10dps with a microbevel using the 30 degree setting on the Sharpmaker before I use a knife.
Another vote here for using the factory edge till it gets dull.
If you don't use it how could you say anything about it?