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    So, I was reading this article on CNN about how Las Vegas is different because of how people are changing.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/01/opinio...omy/index.html

    I was thinking that I am a sceptic. It is safer to assume everything is a lie until it is proven to be truth.

    After reading this article, it makes me think that I am not the only one.

    Is the world teaching us to be this way?

    I wake up each day, I check my email, and I sift through 100 emails of people trying to scam me out of money, into viruses... and the minute I think that something too good to be true could be, I have my identity stolen, I get a virus on my computer.


    The last time I was in Vegas, a taxi driver gave me a statistic that 50% of people who go to Vegas do not gamble. This is causing everything that used to be cheap and free, hotel rooms, dinners, and shows, to now be very expensive to make up for the lost money.
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    Our economy is currently 10% manufacturing & 90% service. That translates into a shrinking middle class, growing lower & upper classes, with the middle class paying for both. No surprise the Vegas mentality is changing so fast. Last I heard was in 2008 there were 18,000 homes built in Vegas which never had a buyer, they over-built for their market, based on unlimited growth (read credit there) and easy credit. It's sort of like the Feds now.

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    I don't buy into it all.

    I agree that gambling is being allowed in so many more states now, that it could cut down on gambling in Vegas. But who do you think owns and runs most of the gambling in other states. There are the same companies that own the gambling in Vegas. So those companies are still making the same their not losing out. They have hand in the Online sites too.

    I would bet that how much Vegas makes per room is as good as it was. More family friendly, more shows. Instead of three guys going to Vegas for 3 day in one room spending more money at the tables, they take the family get 3 rooms, and go to shows, spend more on food, and pay more for rooms. More on souvenirs, no more a deck of cards and a poker chip. Buying shirts, hats and ect. More golfing.

    They’re still the largest convention area for a city in the USA, less company are spending less on this, but I have not heard there hurting in the convention area.

    Construction maybe down, but healthcare and the service industries are still good.

    This a quote from the governor in March “Nevada has now experienced 38 consecutive months of job growth, and the unemployment rate is the lowest it has been since October 2008…..”

    Nevada’s 3.4 percent year-over-year growth rate led the nation; this month the state’s annualized growth rate is 3.6 percent. 88 percent of employment gains over the past year have been in full-time positions, with part-time employment accounting for 12 percent of recent gains. I don’t how that compares to other states.

    Here are March full unemployment figures for Nevada:
    https://www.nevadaworkforce.com/admi...nt_Release.pdf

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    Someone told me that there was a time in the Reno and Las Vegas area that the casinos all had these exquisite all you can eat buffets for under 10 dollars, or around that, between 3 and 10 dollars, and this was around the late 1980s and early to middle 1990s period. Does anyone here know if this has changed or was ever true or is still true?

    The guy said he would go to Vegas and go from one buffet to another, and not spend more than 20 dollars for the whole day, and eat to his heart's content.

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    The article is pretty accurate if you ask me.

    When people think of Las Vegas, people think of the strip. The strip will always be the strip. All the lights, all the glamor and all those slot machines making those noises. Thats what attracts the people all over the world.

    What most people dont realize is that we have a ton of off strip or "local" casinos. The casinos here are broken down in 3 groups. The strip, downtown and local casinos.

    The local casinos are the places that have been struggling and gambling has declined dramtically. Anyone that has lived here for a while can tell you that things are definfitely not the same . When I moved here in 2005, everything was booming. I know a local casino where you couldnt find parking on a Wednesday night. Now on a Friday/Saturday night, the same place is a ghost town after 10pm.

    Another important factor is Poker is slowly dying. Poker rooms are being shut down in various casinos and the ones that still have it open are barely hanging on. Its not becasue people are playing online....its because not that many people are playing poker anymore. Poker in this town was at its peak during the same time that online poker was in its prime before getting banned. I know poker dealers that were making $500-$1k a night that ended up finding employment elsewhere because their poker room got shut down. Although the house does not generate alot of money from poker rooms, poker players love to gamble. Table games, slots, sports bets etc.

    I noticed a big difference when gas prices shot up. People who were driving here from california every weekend started coming her every other week....then once a month....then once every couple months. Where do these out of town regulars usually stay? Not at the strip but usually at downtown or at a local casino.

    Couple years ago people were losing their job left and right. The result was alot of forclosed homes. Alot of people ened up moving out of state. But as they are moving out, new people are always moving in. This town is a vicious cycle. Its a cut throat town.

    As far as the question about the buffets. There might be a few rinky dink places that still have buffets for under $10 but not usually. Prices on buffets can range from around $15 - $40+. Prices in general has gone up for everything.

    All the old timers I spoke to, said this town was at its best when it was ran by the mob back in the day.

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    I've read through all of this and I wish I had more input to give. Vegas seems expensive just to go around and try to have some fun and eat, not even gambling.

    At the downtown area, you can get some good food deals. Tony Roma's has a steak and lobster for <$15.
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    The way I see it, what's happened in Vegas is just what happens everywhere, but on a larger scale. Someone opens a business. That business proves to be very successful, so another similar business opens. It too is a big success, so another opens. It too is a success, but perhaps to a sightly lesser degree. So yet another one opens, then another, then another, each less profitable than the last until, finally, they all start losing money. What makes Vegas stand out, perhaps, is that not only it's economy, but the tax structure of Nevada as a whole, is heavily dependent on the continued success of a single industry - gambling.
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    Sadly. I never was in Vegas. Always wanted, but never had enough $$ to go. My wife and I do not enjoy gambling, but really wanted to see this great place.
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    I say you NEED to make that trip! Of all the places I've ever been, it is the most amazing.

    Get on some email lists for room specials, monitor flight prices. I've heard of people getting round trip tickets for $100 and I get emails for $26 a night rooms.

    There are SO many things to see!
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    What are Vegas knife laws like? Can you carry a locking folder and use it as a tool without concern about undue arrest or seizure of the blade?

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    Yes. Each time I go, I check the laws. I think in 2011 I carried a Manix 2 XHP second and in 2013 I carried a PPT. Same as everywhere, where you have to go by security guards you probably want to leave it in the room.

    Not trying to draw attention to myself, but it's tough to draw attention to yourself in Vegas.
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