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    Serrated models being discontinued?

    Is spyderco trying to move away from models offering serrated edges. The manix and military are both discontinued in serrated, and I wonder if this is a new trend.

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    It wouldnt be if people bought more of them. The amount of serrated fans is on an obvious decline.

    I honestly still think Spyderco will have more serrated (especially full serrated) knives than any other maker. It's part of their history and there are enough fans to support a small niche. Their teeth perform well and aren't just a marketing ploy.
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    I hope so. If this is true, it will give them more production capabilities for other models.
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    All these super steels are pushing the serrations out. The perception now is to get a knife that stays sharp instead of relying on serrations. Not saying this is correct percepetion but it may be part of the cause.
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    I think also, the lack of people who are willing to learn to sharpen serrations, stops them from buying them.

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    That would be a shame I like my serrations on certain knives and spyderco makes them right. Good performers easy to sharpen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bearfacedkiller View Post
    All these super steels are pushing the serrations out. The perception now is to get a knife that stays sharp instead of relying on serrations. Not saying this is correct percepetion but it may be part of the cause.
    Plus, at least some of them do not "play well" with serrations. ZDP-189 being a prime example.

    But, overall, as Blake noted, it's simple economics. If the serrated version of a knife sells well, it stays in the lineup, the Police, the various Rescue blades, the entire Salt series, and the various hawkbill and reverse S bladed models prove that. OTOH, if the serrated version of a given model doesn't sell, it gets the axe. Spyderco got stuck having to close out the serrated versions of custom collaborations at a loss so often that they stopped offering serrations on any of them about ten years back.
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    I think you have to account for combo edge vs full serrated edge as well. Combo edges have a noob/worst of both worlds stigma. I don't hate CE, but do prefer SE and PE working in a 2 knife combo and SE being the smaller blade.

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    I like to have at least one serrated knife in my collection. I think that they hold a really sharp cutting edge for a longer time than an equivalent straight edge, and for certain things (like cutting fibrous materials) I think they are more efficient.

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    I hope not.I love spyderedges and I continue to purchase them.Spyderco Police SS SE is my beloved model.And it seems H1 serrations are great performers

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    Serrated knives will always have a place in my little collection. Also, if I was going to give someone a knife I knew they would be relying on but not necessarily sharpening it would be a serrated knife. Their simple ability to slice, saw, and hack one thing into two pieces is amazing. A dull PE, even crafted from unobtainium , is worthless except for spreading preserves. Anyone who thinks this wouldn't happen has not seen a n00b with a marble cutting board .
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    In regard to serrated models, I just hope that Sal re-issues the FRN Spyderhawk, and the Carbon Fibre Harpy.
    Would Spyderco still have the already-paid-for-and-ready-to-go mould for the FRN Spyderhawk? Would it be expensive in such a case to run off a few, say, 600 hundred examples as a re-issue or sprint run?

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    Serrated knives have a place and spyderco does them the best. There has been a steady drop off in models offered with teeth, unfortunate but as mentioned above most likely the right business decision.

    I know its not rfeasible but it would be fantastic to be able to buy a serrated spydie from the factory directly as an option.

    SE and CE Para 2 would be in my checkout immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donut View Post
    I think also, the lack of people who are willing to learn to sharpen serrations, stops them from buying them.

    Plain edge is like an easy button that people seem to like pressing.
    Im definitely guilty of this haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holland View Post
    Im definitely guilty of this haha
    Me too. Though if I were really into SE I would overcome this.

    I think I would buy more SE if I was willing to carry two knives. But I'm not.
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    I bet the CPM154/S90V sprint would have still sold like crazy if it were SE. I can be the first to admit a better late than never love affair with SE. Now it has become a game of locating the older great ones with teeth. Missed an opportunity on a black SE ATR today. I would like to see popular models have some edge diversity, but not many models have the longevity. Perhaps a 2015 revival of the Delica / Endura in SE especially combined with the FFG. We can hope right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zhyla View Post
    Me too. Though if I were really into SE I would overcome this.

    I think I would buy more SE if I was willing to carry two knives. But I'm not.
    That's why there's the combo edged knives! Sorry to see them go, but less people seem to like them these days, for whatever reason!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eric m. View Post
    That's why there's the combo edged knives! Sorry to see them go, but less people seem to like them these days, for whatever reason!
    I have a combo manix2 and... I dunno, it just doesn't work out as well as I'd like. I'm tempted to get a SE FFG manix2 when they come out just to serif I can get back into SE.
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    I have to believe that the models that sell best with serrations are the ones you still see with them, which are mainly the rescue type knives. If the demand was there the knives wouldn't be going disco.

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    I don't want them to go away. Just ordered a Pacific Salt spyderedge. I didn't have one, See I like serrated edge knives keep producing them.
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