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    led flashlight built into scales

    Has the idea ever been knocked around of building a delica (for example) with a little LED flashlight in the scales.. I looked for something like this on the web and only saw some poorly executed pieces.

    With technology what it is, I wonder if spyederco could do a little bulge in the handle and put a pressure activated switch, with a single led. Maybe they could team up with Streamlight or or Surefire. Maybe it could just be an accessory scale...
    It sure would be handy.

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    I thought about trying to mod a scale by cutting out a section big enough to fit one of these stick on lights onto the liner, then the light would sit almost flush with the outside of the scale, but I'm too chicken to cut up a scale to try it. I think it's a good idea if a scale was made the right way with the light built in. An easier solution would probably just be a Photon light clipped on the lanyard hole.


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    Spyderco distributed some G-Sakai knives years ago that were small keychain knives with a built in led. I have a couple laying around the house and a couple NIB put away somewhere. Victorinox does a good job on some of their knives with a built in led. None of these would be the equivalent of a larger knife like the Delica with an led. It would be really cool if done right.

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    I keep a Streamlight Nano to my keys. My keys are often in my bag but a knife is always in my pocket. I agree that putting one on the lanyard hole would be effective (and a good idea), but not as awesome.

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    Very cool concept, but I imagine the handle would have to be quite a bit thicker than usual
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    I dont know, if you look at the what's involved in modern led fiashlight, with button batteries (check out the link), there not much to them.
    http://www.streamlight.com/product/product.aspx?pid=141

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davidig View Post
    I dont know, if you look at the what's involved in modern led fiashlight, with button batteries (check out the link), there not much to them.
    http://www.streamlight.com/product/product.aspx?pid=141
    I agree. My Victorinox Signature Lite is a small keychain knife with very thin scales that contain the LED and battery. I bet most people wouldn't even know that the LED was even there.

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    You are pretty limited. Basically it would be a lithium coin cell direct driving an acrylic low-current 2mm or 3mm LED. A very diffused 5 lumens or so, probably not the greatest tint on the upper lumen scale either. It's better than not having a light but also not impressive.

    High current modern LED's really need more space to work well. The most compact and powerful that most would consider "impressive" is Veleno Customs Quantum DD. It's a tiny Cree LED being direct driven off a 10180 cylindrical cell (1/3rd AAA lithium rechargeable). While you could probably find a way to get that inside the handle of a thicker Spyderco handle essentially it would have a large portion of dead space devoted to the light. On high you could get like 100 lumens for 6 minutes.



    Really, small lithium batteries you have to charge have a new set of eccentricities. Button and coin cells are easy, cheap and safe. Most cell phones blow these little lights out of the water though. They are already equipped with Li-ion batteries and LED's. That and people are less likely to wash and disassemble their cell phones than knives.
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    I think SOG had something like that...

    Edit: Found it.

    http://www.sogknives.com/bladelight-folder.html
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    FWIW, back in the mid 90's, Spyderco marketed a small knife-flashlight combination from one of their Japanese makers, G Sakai, called the Hotaru (Japanese for Firefly). Not sure how an updated version of that, using the Delica, would sell. You're limiting yourself to someone who wants both in one package, needs both a new knife and a new flashlight, and likes that particular knife. OTOH, if some third party gadget maker could come up with either a light that mounts to one of the unused sets of holes on any Spyderco that uses the fairly ubiquitous 3 screw "hourglass' clip, or one that also acts as a viable replacement for that clip, the market would be considerably larger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blerv View Post
    Just get some epoxy and you'll be all set! It might be a bit "lumpy" in pocket, though...

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    Benchmade did that with their early version of the rescue knife now known as a Houdini. The LED light was a major fail. I am glad Spyderco is not pursuing that idea further, as there are so many better real flashlights out there to use in the off hand.
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    I would like to see a quality pairing if anything. Native5 and Peak Eiger for example. Both trusted locally-made tools.
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    Boom. Problem solved.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fresh Eddie Fresh View Post
    Boom. Problem solved.

    That'll never work. Every time you try to use your knife in the dark you'll blind yourself, and every time you try to use the flashlight you'll stab yourself.

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    Just turn the flashlight around and the problem is solved! HA, HA, HA!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monkeywrangler View Post
    Benchmade did that with their early version of the rescue knife now known as a Houdini. The LED light was a major fail. I am glad Spyderco is not pursuing that idea further, as there are so many better real flashlights out there to use in the off hand.
    Or those things you put on your forehead, headlamps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck_roxas45 View Post
    I think SOG had something like that...

    Edit: Found it.

    http://www.sogknives.com/bladelight-folder.html
    I might actually buy and use something like that for no other reason than to cut bait while night fishing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by remnar View Post
    That'll never work. Every time you try to use your knife in the dark you'll blind yourself, and every time you try to use the flashlight you'll stab yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by eric m. View Post
    Just turn the flashlight around and the problem is solved! HA, HA, HA!!!
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    ok, it is really boring at work today. I spent about three minutes rigging this thing up and probably the next 45 minutes flipping the thing open and shut over and over.


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