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    Para military 2 lanyard hole issue?

    Hey I got this digi camo satin blade para military for christmas, and I carry my Orange Manix 2 every day, so i never ever used the para 2, Also i wanted to keep it in absolutely pristine condition. I guess I never paid close enough attention, but the lanyard hole isnt press fitted properly. It is flush with the liner on one side, but on the other it isnt. I cant push it down with my bare hands, it doesnt budge. Ive included links to a couple photos, they are not of good quality, but it does showcase the issue.

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    So how can i fix this? Now that ive noticed it, it bothers me quite a bit, as the other aspects of the blade are pretty much perfect.
    Ibe had this blade too long to exchange it for another one, even though it has never really cut anything substantial. Thanks.

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    I cannot discern anything wrong by looking at those photos. Not saying I doubt you or anything but maybe we just need a closer look.

    You could contact Spyderco warranty and repair for help too.
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    I'm seeing a fairly narrow, but visible, gap on one side of the spacer portion of the lanyard tube. Can't say for certain whether Spyderco would consider it a defect, or if it can be fixed, but the only way to know for sure is to pack it up and send it back to them for evaluation. Instructions for doing that can be found here.
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    Yes mr deacon, that is exactly the issue. I can actually see that the G 10 slabs and liner are no longer parallel at that point of the knife, due to it being pushed out further at that point.

    Thanks for the reply

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    I see it's not seated properly and it would annoy me too but I doesn't look broken per say. Did you take it apart and put it together again? Are the scales warped at all?
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    I've taken apart Para2s a number of times. These lanyard tubes are just friction fit and they flare out a bit at the ends.

    My recommendation is to wrap the end of the knife in a towel or some other cushion material. Then, gently squeeze the scales together with a vice grip. They should seat correctly in just a couple of seconds.

    Normally, when reassembling Para2s, I use a small benchtop arbor press, with the knife between two blocks of soft pine.

    If you don't feel comfortable with this level of repair, the Spyderco repair/warranty shop is fantastic and will fix you right up.

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    Thank you very much phillip, that sounds fairly simple. I squeezed it as hard as i could with my hands but obviously that wasnt enough. Ill get back and see if i can give it a better squeeze on some equipment, Thanks again.

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    Get your c-clap out and have at it.

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    No ive hardly touched this knife actually. Never been apart! And no the scales are not what i would call warped, but they are not parallel to each other, simply because one side is seated and the other is not.

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    You can probably squeeze that together with your bare hands. I've had that happen to my old Para 2 after taking it apart. As mentioned, the tube is just pressed in with flared ends so just press it together and it should be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phillipsted View Post
    I've taken apart Para2s a number of times. These lanyard tubes are just friction fit and they flare out a bit at the ends.

    My recommendation is to wrap the end of the knife in a towel or some other cushion material. Then, gently squeeze the scales together with a vice grip. They should seat correctly in just a couple of seconds.

    Normally, when reassembling Para2s, I use a small benchtop arbor press, with the knife between two blocks of soft pine.

    If you don't feel comfortable with this level of repair, the Spyderco repair/warranty shop is fantastic and will fix you right up.

    TedP
    I like this idea myself but on the side of the knife that has the gap between the scale and spacer, the vise grip jaw needs to be pushing on the lanyard tube as well as the scale. Actually, if the opposite jaw was over the lanyard tube that would be fine also. Then everything should be lined up perfectly. That is unless the scales crack and the knife falls apart in your hands.

    Another thought that may be better is to use a bench vise and two blocks of wood. As you tighten the vise you can watch as everything smashes together. The wood needs to be hard enough to push the lanyard tube instead of the metal lanyard tube pressing into the wood and not want to slide with the scale/liner. If the tube is flanged during manufacturing it may not want to move to be even with the side where the tube is recessed instead of sticking out. If I were concerned about anything I would wonder if that movement would damage the scale.

    Here is another though that has also been mentioned. Send to Spyderco warranty/repair. You may be without the knife for a couple of weeks but it doesn't sound like you use it. Also, it will either come back perfect or just how it is now. If it isn't perfect then, that would be the time to get out the vises, hammers, power tools, etc. By letting them have a go at it first at least the warranty would still be in effect in the future.

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    Either you or Spyderco should be able to fix it faily easily like has been mentioned above.

    What I find amusing is that you carry a sprint every day, but are worried about keeping a production knife pristine.
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    It might help to loosen the pivot if you do this, to take pressure off of the lanyard tube. Just my 0.2.

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    Tap the good end (properly seated) with a punch towards the bad (unseated end). Just put the nail punch in the lanyard hole, put it somewhere where the punch hangs freely but the knife is supported (like a hole in a table, a corner) and give it a LIGHT tap with a hammer. LIGHT!!! That'll seat it (probably).

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    My manix also has this issue, but it doesn't seem to affect the knife's performance at all.

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    One of my Manix 2's looked like this. I put it on the edge of a wooden table with a towel underneath it and tapped on the scale to allow the scale to close the gap. Once that was done I put a flaring tool on the side that just seated and cranked it down a bit. Now it's solid as a rock.
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    My brown G10/S35VN Para 2 had this problem.

    I was able to fix it by clamping down on it by hand without any tools.
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