Smaller ParaMilitary2?

[PARATOM]

i think it would be cool. I would 100% buy one, but they would have to change the name...something like "mini military"

then again, like someone said above, sage 5 - g10 and compression lock.... that sounds soooooo amazing, i cant see how a compression sage isnt in Spyderco's R&D... its too awesome of a lock to not include in that series

[phillipsted]

I fall into the "Para 2 is perfect" camp...

But the smallest compression lock I've seen is on the discontinued "S" model. Granted, it is a light duty knife, but it is a dandy knife for office EDC. Very light weight, a nice delicate lockup. Love it.

TedP

[Roverrich]

My prediction is that such a knife will be build and it will be the Sage 5.

R

[Sonny]

Also, I would like to say, I do like the fact that Spyderco has a nice selection of smaller knives for those of us who are so inclined.

Well stated.
Sonny

[cckw]

There is the Military, then downsized to the paramilitary, downsized again would be the "recruit"?

[Sequimite]

A few para 1's are still out there. Might be what you guys are looking for.

+1

I guess I'm as obsessed as most on the forum, but I still find these posts amusing. Spyderco does not have every possible combination of lock, length steel type and handle material in production at the same time. Fortunately, with the out of production models available they cover a remarkable range.

[chuck_roxas45]

+1

I guess I'm as obsessed as most on the forum, but I still find these posts amusing. Spyderco does not have every possible combination of lock, length steel type and handle material in production at the same time. Fortunately, with the out of production models available they cover a remarkable range.

Yeh, I too am really amused by guys wanting every small variation of existing models. Isn't there a knife that comes really close to what these guys want?

Maybe custom is the way to go for them.

[JNewell]

Exactly. Part of the design point of the Military and the ParaMilitary (both) is the generous handle:blade ratio. Change that and you've got a different knife - but the odds are high that it's already in the Spyderco catalog with a different model name and number.

+1

I guess I'm as obsessed as most on the forum, but I still find these posts amusing. Spyderco does not have every possible combination of lock, length steel type and handle material in production at the same time. Fortunately, with the out of production models available they cover a remarkable range.

[Evil D]

I can't help but laugh at the irony in this thread since it was only a couple years ago when all we had was the original Paramilitary, and when they added .5 inch to it and made the Para 2, everyone cheered about it. So, if you want a 3 inch compression lock knife, look no further than the original Para.

But, i would love to have something Chaparral sized with a compression lock.

[Popsickle]

para 1 was a smaller offering and is still in stock at certain stores. para 2 was brought out for people who wanted more blade and was an instant success

[b-elliott]

I'll jump on this bandwagon! I'd be in for a Sage 5 with compression.... er a smaller Para! Honestly, I'd prefer the sage. I realize that they can't make every size knife with every lock and steel variation, but a lot of the reason we come here is to put in our 2 cents right??

[INFRNL]

i think it would be cool. I would 100% buy one, but they would have to change the name...something like "mini military"

then again, like someone said above, sage 5 - g10 and compression lock.... that sounds soooooo amazing, i cant see how a compression sage isnt in Spyderco's R&D... its too awesome of a lock to not include in that series

A sage with compression would be awesome, but Sal has already mentioned they have 3 others to choose from instead. I believe they are older lock styles and he feels they are more important to use first. On BF he states better info than my memory. It could be some time before we see the compression on a sage, but time will tell.

as far as this thread it is funny that many wanted a bigger para, now we have people wanting a smaller para. I also agree that they should get the original para if this is the case, but I could understand a refresh on the original para being a nice option

[DCDesigns]

I think its perfect, no changes necessary!

[willydigger]

Yeh, I too am really amused by guys wanting every small variation of existing models. Isn't there a knife that comes really close to what these guys want?

Maybe custom is the way to go for them.

I don't know what you mean by custom. Do people customize Spyderco's? Could I take my Native to Bob's Custom Spyderco Shop and change the lockback to a liner?

The problem I have with Spyderco (because no other manufacturer comes even close) is that with each knife there is something wrong. A flaw. Based on my personal opinion. Consider it a Monday Morning Quarterback complex. Here are some examples:

1. A smaller PM2. The handle is too big.
2. Native V with a liner/compression/bearing/anything else-lock. No lockbacks.
3. A Persistence with a choil. Probably would be my only Spyderco if it had one (since it was my first and I wanted a choil).
4. A Dodo with liners. I'm not a fan of liner-less knives. They look cheap. Don't get me started on FRN.

Instead Spyderco finds a way to take the perfect out of every knife. A great marketing strategy since I own 5. Love them all, but not true love.

Back on topic, the PM2 is obviously popular and wonderful and all that. A smaller one, IMO, would be perfect. Of course the other possibility is that I won't ever be satisfied.

[Evil D]

I don't know what you mean by custom. Do people customize Spyderco's? Could I take my Native to Bob's Custom Spyderco Shop and change the lockback to a liner?

The problem I have with Spyderco (because no other manufacturer comes even close) is that with each knife there is something wrong. A flaw. Based on my personal opinion. Consider it a Monday Morning Quarterback complex. Here are some examples:

1. A smaller PM2. The handle is too big.
2. Native V with a liner/compression/bearing/anything else-lock. No lockbacks.
3. A Persistence with a choil. Probably would be my only Spyderco if it had one (since it was my first and I wanted a choil).
4. A Dodo with liners. I'm not a fan of liner-less knives. They look cheap. Don't get me started on FRN.

Instead Spyderco finds a way to take the perfect out of every knife. A great marketing strategy since I own 5. Love them all, but not true love.

Back on topic, the PM2 is obviously popular and wonderful and all that. A smaller one, IMO, would be perfect. Of course the other possibility is that I won't ever be satisfied.

1. Not everyone has small hands. To some (me) the handle is almost perfect in size.
2. To some (The Deacon for example), you simply can't go wrong with a back lock. For every person who loves the compression lock, i guarantee you there are ten thousand who love back locks.
3. Meh. To each his own but they could do anything they want to the Persistence and it wouldn't make up for the steel IMO.
4. Again, to each his own. One of my favorite things about the original Paramilitary was how it had almost no liners, but it did have them where it mattered (at the pivot). I like the simplicity of no liners as long as the design is strong enough to make due without them. I honestly feel that the only reason the Para 2 got nested skeletonized liners was so they had something to tap into for the 4 way clip, otherwise i bet it wouldn't have got them.

[chuck_roxas45]

I don't know what you mean by custom.

You go to a knife maker like Ray Laconico or Andrew Demko or some other and order a knife to your specs.

[willydigger]

1. Not everyone has small hands. To some (me) the handle is almost perfect in size.
2. To some (The Deacon for example), you simply can't go wrong with a back lock. For every person who loves the compression lock, i guarantee you there are ten thousand who love back locks.
3. Meh. To each his own but they could do anything they want to the Persistence and it wouldn't make up for the steel IMO.
4. Again, to each his own. One of my favorite things about the original Paramilitary was how it had almost no liners, but it did have them where it mattered (at the pivot). I like the simplicity of no liners as long as the design is strong enough to make due without them. I honestly feel that the only reason the Para 2 got nested skeletonized liners was so they had something to tap into for the 4 way clip, otherwise i bet it wouldn't have got them.

All great points. I guess in the case of the Paramilitary, why not have size differences? It is a great knife. They do it with the Tenacious series and again with the Police/Endura/Delica, and to some extent the Caly's and Manix's. The Sage 1 had a quad set going with the Chaparral, Cat, and Chicago. They have the large Military, the medium PM2, now how about a small version too? You could have a great camp knife and an EDC blade of the same design.

[chuck_roxas45]

Some people having entitlement issues here?

BTW, I want a larger millie.

[Popsickle]

You go to a knife maker like Ray Laconico or Andrew Demko or some other and order a knife to your specs.

i just placed an order with demko

[Popsickle]

Some people having entitlement issues here?

BTW, I want a larger millie.

lol, its all over.

larger millie could be fun