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    Thumbs up CKE Large Bushcraft Knife...

    My Dear Friends,

    Rarely, if ever, do I revel in the misfortune of another, as I consider it somewhat distasteful at minimum and intolerable in the extreme. I recently found the opportunity to recant that position only briefly, as the misfortune suffered was to my distinct advantage.

    Before you think ill of me, please allow me to explain further.

    I have enjoyed a long relationship with Craig Wheatley of CKE Knives, and for some years now he has been a collaborator, conspirator, and good friend. It is reaching the point that I am quite certain he finds it odd when some time has elapsed and he has not heard from me with one bizarre knife design or another.

    During the course of recent conversations surrounding his Tri-Bit Karambit design and the subsequent testing, I had casually remarked that I was interested in a Bushcraft-worthy blade and was actively studying their characteristics in pursuit of obtaining one. I further remarked that I knew that Craig crafted at least a couple of different models and was inquiring about pricing and time frame for delivery.

    A few days later I received an email from Craig, lamenting a shop mishap that I am sure all knifemakers have suffered; while threading a hole for removable scale panels, the tap actually bound and broke off, lodging itself such that it rendered the hole quite useless for its intended purpose. What made matters worse, the knife was actually a special-order blade for a client who specifically wanted removable scales. For all intents and purposes the blade was ruined, destined for the scrap steel pile.

    I commiserated briefly, feeling his frustration and angst.

    He proceeded to offer up the blade to me for testing and evaluation, knowing that I needed one for camping and trekking this upcoming summer. Fixed scales would solve the singular issue with the knife, and it would not affect function in the least.

    I was incredibly excited at the prospects, as I had never previously enjoyed the chance to test a purpose-driven blade that did not have some kind of self-defense overtone. This one would be pure survival, and in Craig’s opinion would be built to withstand anything.

    Within a few short weeks a parcel arrived at my door, much larger than I had initially expected even with the description I had received from Craig. I opened the parcel and was quite amazed – the knife itself is a beast of a blade, admittedly designed to take any abuse one could dish out and ask for more.


    This knife boasts an overall length of 11 inches, of which 6 ¼” is blade and 5 ¾” is actual cutting edge.

    The construction was ¼ inch (0.25”) thick O-1 steel, perfect for blades designed to be used really hard. The blade itself was full flat grind for cutting and slicing ability. I realize that Bushcraft traditionalists will likely argue the relative merits of the Scandi grind, but with a blade this thick I consider the lack of a Scandi grind to be moot point, tradition be hanged.

    I did request that the final edge be convex, which he managed handily. Upon arrival the knife would shave fine strips from notebook paper, which I consider quite a feat for such a thick blade. In fact, the blade is full-thickness until the final inch or so of the tip, where the entire blade tapers in a convex fashion out to a fine point.

    Scales are green micarta and wonderfully contoured, fitting my hands beautifully without producing any hot spots during heavy use, and are permanently pinned and epoxied to the blade tang. A deep finger choil keeps your fingers out of harm’s way, securing your grip on the knife while in use. A lanyard hole provides an attachment point to keep your knife in place during more aggressive chopping.

    Weight? Heavy, as might be expected, but I hardly consider this a fault given the level of indestructibility you are dealing with.

    The knife came with a fitted Kydex sheath, fashioned quite tight and rattle-free. Craig indicated that since during our conversations I had mentioned lashing it to the outside of my pack, he felt that erring on the side of being fairly snug would be advantageous to prevent accidental loss. This is the kind of attention to detail that every custom maker needs; Craig not only considered what I thought that I wanted and needed, but also the features he knew that I needed including those I might be unaware of.

    Not only this, but what kind of Bushcrafter might I be were I to not have a ready source of fire? To this end Craig also crafted a firesteel with a cocobolo handle (my single favorite exotic wood, and he knows it) and included a length of jute twine for use in firestarting.

    Interestingly, the thing that surprised me most about this blade was the fit and finish. Craig had indicated to me that he wasn’t going to be too particular in these areas, instead concentrating on the functionality of the knife since that was his primary feedback interest. Based on that information I expected a very rough knife indeed; what I received was anything but. The micarta scales are smoothed flawlessly, leaving just enough texture for good gripping, and mate with the steel perfectly without any gaps or raised areas. So smooth are the transitions between the two that were it not for differences in temperature under my fingers I would be hard-pressed to tell where one ends and the other begins. The grind lines are perfectly clean and straight, the taper to the tip is even, and the scale pins are so smooth I cannot feel them against the micarta under my bare fingers when trying.

    There is already a bit of Kydex scratching on the blade itself, but for something that will be batoned through firewood to create kindling I hardly worry about that, especially since the sheath is designed so exceptionally snug to prevent loss.

    If you do not own one of Craig’s blades you owe it to yourself to check him out. I plan to see about one of his smaller Bushcraft blades for the inside of my pack this summer.

    My friends, given the arrival of this amazing piece of steel, somehow I think that is it time to tie on a paracord thong for a lanyard and go camping!


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    Looks like he's modified the beast I got 2 years back (July '07)... just slightly though.

    1/4" O-1, 4.75" handle, 6.5" from front of scale to tip, 6" of edge. 1.3" from belly to spine, 1/4" g-10 slabs making the handle 0.8". 2 bolts securing the slabs to allow a field strip to dry it if needed (high carbon + water doesn't always work).

    I carry inverted on my hip, aptly refer to it as the beast. Trust me, you'll have fun with it..
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    Simple, strong, well thought...
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    You don't want to know how many emails went back and forth tweaking it before it was made. Think we spent a couple months with pics and sketches going back and forth.
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    What a beautiful knife there Hannibal. That looks like it could cut down a tree.
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    A stellar review, Kurt! Very thorough.

    And a great-looking knife. You know, there are certain knives that just have "that look". The look that tells you it's going to fit your hand and be just so damn useful, even before you've gotten the blade into hand.

    The Bushcraft knife looks like just such a knife!
    Congrats on obtaining a fine knife, Kurt. And congrats to Craig for hitting what looks like a home run!
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    Nicely done!...Looks like a monster knife as it should be. Cool little fire starter, now Kurt don't burn down most of W. VirginiaSmokey the Bear carrys a firearm...LOL....Beautiful knife use it in good health my friend!....Doc
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    Talking A New Development...

    My Dear Friends,

    After a bit of time using the knife and carrying it around I began to notice rust starting to form on the blade. The primary areas of concern were the blade tang and spine, but anywhere I had touched the knife it had begun to rust ever so slightly.

    This is not a new phenomenon to me - my body chemistry is incredibly corrosive and tends to rust anything that isn't either stainless or already corroded.

    Which gave me an idea.

    The wonderful patina that carbon steel knives obtain after years of use and care has always held a fascination for me. My first knife, a two-bladed Barlow (which I still possess, incidentally) had just such a dark protective coating on the blade when I found it buried amongst the White Pine needles when I was about eight years old.

    A bit of research turned up ways to accellerate the process, producing a patina in a matter of hours rather than years, and as such helping to protect the blade somewhat against more aggressive corrosion.

    Out comes the white distilled vinegar, and an hour later I had what I had been looking for. The light grey color is actually quite fetching.

    I washed the blade off and wiped it down with oil. I think I am good to go!


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    A Bit of Abuse...

    My Dear Friends,

    I have a couple of confessions to make.

    Where knives are concerned, classically I hail from the camp whose motto must read either "use the right tool for the job" or "a knife is the least effective and most expensive prybar you'll ever use."

    The upshot of this is that I do not use my knives as prybars, axes, drills, chisels, or as a replacement for any other heavy tools. I own these tools and have no need to damage my knives imitating their function.

    While I am on my soapbox, I have always considered 'batoning' one of the silliest things I have ever seen - pounding a knife through a firelog with another log? Utterly ridiculous. I own a hand axe and know how to use it.

    Craig had indicated to me via email that this knife would handle anything I could dish out. Apparently I lost what little mind I possess last night and decided to test that theory out.

    We have been prepping for a camping trip this weekend and I had gathered up some firewood from the stack by our outbuilding to take with us. Most of it was fairly large, and I knew that I needed to split some of it to ease lighting.

    A couple of days ago I had sharpened this knife with 1500 grit sandpaper and a mousepad, and as a result the edge is screaming sharp. I proceeded with reluctance to haul out a 4" x 8" x 14" oak firelog and a smaller log to act as a baton.

    In actuality, I was amazed by how easily the knife split seasoned oak! After being driven through the log almost two dozen times I had a neat stack of kindling and no discernable damage to the knife.

    The real kicker, however, was that neither was there any discernable loss of sharpness after such abuse!

    I decided that it was time for an experiment - while I am taking my normal complement of tools camping this weekend, they will remain in the Jeep unless absolutely necessary. I intend to use this knife, and only this knife, as the single solitary tool available to me while we are camping. I want to see exactly what this blade is capable of!

    Pics and a full report to hopefully follow!

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    I was hacking off small branches (~1" dia) a couple weeks ago while camping... 2-3 swings and it's off. I'd recommend a lanyard though.

    Just have to find the sweet spot on the blade for hacking and you won't need a hatchet again
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    My Dear Friend,

    Quote Originally Posted by vampyrewolf View Post
    I was hacking off small branches (~1" dia) a couple weeks ago while camping... 2-3 swings and it's off. I'd recommend a lanyard though.

    Just have to find the sweet spot on the blade for hacking and you won't need a hatchet again
    That is exactly what I needed to hear!

    My sincere thanks, my friend!

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    Talking Camping Report...

    My Dear Friends,


    This past week-end we managed the planned camping trip - Thursday evening to Sunday morning. It isn't like we were "roughing it" much - we had decent tents and the campground was well-maintained. I had to return to the house daily to feed the dogs, facilitated by the campground being only a few minutes' drive from my domicile.


    I normally carry quite a number of tools while camping - a sturdy camp knife, a machete, a hand axe, and a bow saw (the "right tool for the job" mentality at its finest). I decided to leave all of the tools in the Jeep except this knife and see how far I could manage with a single tool.


    In the course of the week-end I did figure out a few things about this knife, the first being that its moniker "The Beast" was quite appropriate.


    After the first evening using this knife, when I returned to the house the following day I took all of the other tools - I was convinced I wouldn't need them.


    I was correct.


    I spent the week-end batoning firewood into kindling, pounding the blade through well over a dozen firelogs (no, I didn't really require that much kindling - I wanted to see how the edge would hold up - also, it was kind of fun).


    Later in the day on Friday I decided to see what kind of chopper "The Beast" would be and wasn't disappointed - I was chopping apart deadfall exceeding four inches in diameter with a half-dozen solid smacks, sending huge chips of wood flying with every hit.


    (I have attached pics below of some of the chips with the knife in the picture for a size reference.)


    In short, I had a great time with this knife!


    The knife handled all other camp chores admirably as well, and in my estimation is a perfectly executed purpose-driven design.


    The edge finally needs touching up, which is itself one of the more amazing aspects of this knife - the edge retention is incredible. I didn't touch the edge all week-end (except to abuse it) and the knife is still very sharp. Granted, I should have stropped it from time to time, but I wanted to see how far it would go with no maintenance at all.


    The artificial patina wore off a bit both due to my initial resharpening prior to the trip and during use. Friday morning I noted a few small patina spots that weren't present the previous evening, so I think the knife is enjoying being really *used.*

    More to come as camping season continues...

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