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    Case slippies (Case CV Vs. TruSharp Stainless)

    I've always loved the look of the Case slipjoints, classic old-fashioned lines, shiny bolsters, jigged bone, and a jewel-like finish on the blades, so I decided to pick up a Medium red bone "Pocket Worn" Stockman, it looked great, and had a decent edge on it, I was looking forward to trying out Case's Chrome Vanadium steel, as I've heard it's easy to get Scary Sharp and takes a killer edge

    When I got home and did some research online, it turns out that this particular knife has Case's TruSharp Stainless, *not* Chrome Vanadium, so needless to say, I was dissapointed, I have plenty of stainless knives, and I really wanted to try a good high-carbon steel in a classic slippie design

    So, I ask you, O Steel Gurus, how does Case's Stainless Steel stack up compared to CV, I know CV will need more care and this doesn't bother me, I want a knife capable of taking a killer, Super-Scary edge, I really do love the looks of this knife, as it's a real classy looking classic design, but if CV steel is superior in performance, I have no problem returning it for a different model with CV....
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    CV is all that, and more. Probably my favourite steel to sharpen, polish and use. I have a few Case CV knives that live in my pocket at different times and they are awesome. Cut an apple, let it darken the blade a little, and off you go to a land where things are simple and beautiful. Case SS, I don't like it at all.

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    Oh, and if it matters, I have a salt marsh on our property, and I'm about 10 minutes from York Beach, Maine, I have had the occasional light surface rust issues with some Spyderco S30V knives just sitting in my storage box (a Native and a Dodo picked up some minor cosmetic staining on the non-polished spine and jimping surfaces, both knives were unused), I've had a CS Twistmaster pick up cosmetic spotting just sitting in storage, no handling or using, the spotting occured on the exposed part of the blade when folded), I now have silica gel packets in each compartment in the storage box, I also tend to sweat heavily in the summer (us Northerners/Yankees have no heat tolerance to speak of, yet we laugh at cold weather....)
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    Then your CV will discolour and maybe show rust. But, keep it oiled and off you go.

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    Hmm, I checked the Ace Hardware site (where I bought the knife) and the only Case knives they carry in CV are the Trapper series, the Stockman series are all TruSharp stainless

    problem is, I really like the Stockman pattern and don't really care for the Trapper pattern, but the Trappers have better steel, I checked at KTP, and the only carbon steel slippies they carry are the Boker Tree series, good knives, yes, but I really wanted a Case slippie, they don't have any used Case CV's either

    So, I'm torn, I like the Stockman pattern, and this one is put together really well, and has great fit-and-finish, but it's not CV, and I *really* want a CV Case, I *could* order online, but slippies really need to be evaluated in store before purchase, hard to do on the internet

    what to do, what to do, keep the Stockman, or trade it for a CV Trapper....
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    My trapper gets more use than my stockman now... if that helps. Trapper is hands down the best apple knife, and it's up to tough tasks too. But, in the end, your call is the right call.

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    I stopped back at Ace this morning and checked out their Case slippies, now that I know what I'm looking for, all their slippies, save two, were Stainless, the only CV slippies they had were a Small Stockman and a Trapper, the small stockman was too small, so I took a look at the Trapper, a basic yellow handle trapper

    It turns out that the Trapper pattern isn't as bad as I thought, the Stockman *looks* classier, but the Trapper just fits better, no blade humps extending far past the scales like the sheepfoot blade did on the Stockman pattern, and the long handle of the Trapper just balances better, not to mention it packs in more usable blade length

    I also like the Spey blade more than I thought I would, mainly due to it's mostly flat edge, similar to a Wharnie, plus, the rounded tip would be less intimidating to NKP, plus, the yellow scales give it more of a "Grandpa's Old Knife look and feel to it, I thought I wasn't going to like the yellow plastic scales, as I do prefer jigged bone on classic slippies, but the problem with jigged bone is they look *too* nice, I'd be hesitant to put a jigged knife to hard work, as I wouldn't want to get it dirty and scuffed, it looks too nice to use, the yellow scales I have no problem letting get dirty and beat up looking, as it will *add* to their appearance as a well used and loved tool

    On to the blades....

    Compared against the TruSharp stainless, there was a quite noticeable difference in sharpness, using the thumb-drag test (drag thumb lightly across the blade, perpendicular to the cutting edge), the TruSharp factory edge felt somewhat dull, not even as sharp as a factory Vic SAK, the blades would not shave hairs from the factory, acceptable for normal use, bit not acceptable for us Scary Sharp fanatics, on a scale of 1-10, 10 being Scary Sharp, the TruSharp blades would rate a 7

    the CV blades, OTOH, had an immediate and noticeable toothiness to them, they felt much sharper, and the edge felt consistent from tip to end, the clip point blade would not shave hairs, the spey blade would shave, but not pop hairs, they were *close* to Scary, but not Scary yet, I would imagine that a couple quick passes on the Sharpmaker white rods at the 30 degree setting will easily take the blades to Scary, factory sharpness would be more than acceptable for normal use or the average knife user, on a scale of 1-10, the CV blades rate a 9 for the clip point and a 9.5 for the spey

    the Trapper has much better "walk and talk" than the Stockman as well, blades spring open and snap closed with a decent snap, the backsprings are nice and strong, and have an almost Victorinox level "snap" to them, the "walk and talk" on this knife is great, I'd imagine the tighter walk-and-talk on the Trapper is due to having blades only at one end of the knife, the backsprings don't have to support blades at each end, which means the springs can be stouter and more solid

    fit-and finish is quite good, the blades have a nice mirror sheen to them, the edges gleam in the light, the bolsters and Case logo shield are nice and shiny, the only real "drawback" is the blandness of the yellow scales, but as I said upthread, this works in the knife's favor as I won't feel the need to baby it, it's a tool, no I won't abuse it, but I'm not going to baby it either

    And as an added advantage, this Trapper was $10 less than the Stockman I returned, I got better steel for less money, another advantage of the simple yellow handles, I guess, they're cheaper and make the knives a tad more affordable

    Bravo Case, I understand the popularity of the Trapper pattern now
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